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He has been observed to beat his wife, and he is standing over her broken, bruised body with a bloody stick.
He has discredited himself.
He derailed the discussion by appealing to his own geological credentials. To anyone who knows anything about geology it is evident that he knows nothing about the subject. I agree he should be ignored, but some people keep responding to him, and this ensures the thread will be seriously derailed.
Hey, Gracchus, you almost got me on this one.
Why don't you even imply a thanks on my answer to your question?
So you've put him in a "darned if he does, darned if he doesn't" situation. Kinda like asking him if he still beats his wife.
No wonder he doesn't answer. Neither would I. Your sole intent is to discredit him no matter what he says.
Stick to the topic rather than one poster's credentials and maybe you'd have a better discussion. If you don't like what the guy says, ignore him, but don't pester him about where he went to school.
Faithless people want to discredit creation by scientific knowledge. They love to do this to intimidate Christian who are not in the field of science. Unfortunately in this forum, they hit a solid rock whenever they argued with me by their feeble geology knowledge. Well, what option do you think is still left for them?
Faithless people want to discredit creation by scientific knowledge.
You might as well argue that those who study reindeer migration patterns are trying to discredit Santa Claus. Scientists study nature to figure out how it works. It is not the fault of scientists if some christians make claims which contradict reality.
Unfortunately in this forum, they hit a solid rock whenever they argued with me by their feeble geology knowledge.
We are still waiting for evidence which points to the continents being thinner in the past. When are we going to see this evidence? When are we going to see any evidence that the volume of water in the modern oceans was enought to cover the entire Earth just 4,000 years ago?
__________________ "Since YAC [Young-Age Creation] epistemology accepts Biblical claims over physical evidence and human reason, logical or evidential arguments for evolution and/or against YAC are likely to be ineffective in converting most YACists."--Kurt Wise
Am I to assume that not a single intellectual can be found at a christian seminary?
__________________ "Since YAC [Young-Age Creation] epistemology accepts Biblical claims over physical evidence and human reason, logical or evidential arguments for evolution and/or against YAC are likely to be ineffective in converting most YACists."--Kurt Wise
Am I to assume that not a single intellectual can be found at a christian seminary?
Probably depends on the seminary. One that belongs to a mainline denomination that teaches a historical-critical analysis of the Bible probably has a decent number. (Although it seems many of the graduates forget this method when they start preaching at a church, unfortunately.)
The Jesuit schools also are supposed to have a tradition of intellectualism, but they are a little handicapped because they have to toe the line set by the Magesterium. And the number of intellectuals rapidly approaches zero as you get to the fundamentalist "Bible Colleges," with Bob Jones University, Liberty Univeristy, Regent University and Pensacola Christian College possibly shooting off into the negative end of the scale.
As Mark Knoll wrote, "The scandal of the evangelical mind is that there is no evangelical mind."
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Faithless people want to discredit creation by scientific knowledge. They love to do this to intimidate Christian who are not in the field of science. Unfortunately in this forum, they hit a solid rock whenever they argued with me by their feeble geology knowledge. Well, what option do you think is still left for them?
This settles it in my mind then, you are, and forever will a Poe as far as I am concerned juvi.
You guys crack me up. Come to a forum where people actually know and understand science, make indefensible claims, then cry martyr when questioned about it.
Good bye juvi.
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Faithless people want to discredit creation by scientific knowledge.
Some folks put their faith in the words written in star and stone, some put their faith in words written by men.
They love to do this to intimidate Christian who are not in the field of science.
Who has tried to intimidate you? Who has threatened you?
Unfortunately in this forum, they hit a solid rock whenever they argued with me by their feeble geology knowledge.
Solid rock! I agree.
Well, what option do you think is still left for them?
They can post for the lurkers, or they can ignore you.
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Faithless people want to discredit creation by scientific knowledge. They love to do this to intimidate Christian who are not in the field of science. Unfortunately in this forum, they hit a solid rock whenever they argued with me by their feeble geology knowledge. Well, what option do you think is still left for them?
discreadit creation? kindof hard to discread the unfalsifiable. although its impossible to give any kind of credit.
You wont give your credentials because you ether have none or are afraid they are inadicuate. I wouldn't stoke your ego too much. your knowlage of geography is pretty poor. its pretty sad to go back to your prev posts after reading what you have just written.
You might as well argue that those who study reindeer migration patterns are trying to discredit Santa Claus. Scientists study nature to figure out how it works. It is not the fault of scientists if some christians make claims which contradict reality.
We are still waiting for evidence which points to the continents being thinner in the past. When are we going to see this evidence? When are we going to see any evidence that the volume of water in the modern oceans was enought to cover the entire Earth just 4,000 years ago?
Sorry, I have no idea that you are still waiting. People argued here are, in general, not willing to learn.
Evidence (see if you can understand, if not, ask again): older continents are much much smaller.
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