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Old 18th October 2009, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by azmurath View Post
Awesome job putting any semblance of thought into your response.


Honestly, it offends me greatly that you just turn off your brain and spew anything that pops into your brainwashed mind.

Um, isn't that bolded statement an oxymoron? I would think the entire problem is that nothing that contradicts his view of the Bible is allowed to enter his mind.

He himself has bragged about his "boolean logic"
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Old 18th October 2009, 02:03 AM
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Creationism seems to be just another word for brain dead.
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Originally Posted by Jazmyn View Post
We must ask, what evidence would a global flood, one which went higher than most mountains leave?
A thicklayer of poorly sorted conglomerate lying unconformably over the whole of the earth's surface locally comprising of material from the geological strata beneath it.

A bit like the glacial till tthat lies over much of Northern Europe that William Buckland originally interpreted as a biblical flood layer.

The absolute lack of this layer is definitive evidence that no global flood occured in the last few thousand years, the lack of a similar layer in the geological record proves that no global flood has ever occured.

And simple physics and the amount of water we have on earth show that it is impossible for an global flood to have ever occured or to occur in the future.

the closest we have come to a global flood was the Cretaceous and that was not a flood but a massive and slow rise in sea level when we lost polar ice caps. This lead to massive carbonate deposits world wide.

The flood story in the Bible is derivative of older Sumerian flood stories which are not suprising as that civilisation lived between two rivers that regularly flooded.

I find that a much more like source for the flood allegory in the Bible than the flooding of the Black Sea.
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I live in the North Western part of BC Canada. Scientists are puzzeld by the existance of shell food imbedded in the mountain tops surrounding my homeland.

Apart from the Bible, we have oral history pointing to a time when the earth was flooded. These stories were among us prior to the coming of the missionaries or the bible
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There's also the slight issue that a global flood would completely destroy the aquatic ecosystem, and the vast majority of aquatic life would go extinct.

And it would wash away the topsoil all over the world. What happened in the American Dust Bowl would happen all over the world.

And it would deposit salts all over the land. Farming might be a little difficult when the receding flood water leave behind salt in what used to be farmlands.

There's also all those delicate geological formations that simply would not be here if we'd suffered a flood as recently as a few thousand years ago.
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Originally Posted by nagwalk View Post
I live in the North Western part of BC Canada. Scientists are puzzeld by the existance of shell food imbedded in the mountain tops surrounding my homeland.

Apart from the Bible, we have oral history pointing to a time when the earth was flooded. These stories were among us prior to the coming of the missionaries or the bible

Um, so a mystery about Trilobites that I cannot explain, and oral histories which could refer to local floods. The point is that the damage from a global flood a few thousand years ago would be so devastating to the ecosystem that we still wouldn't have fully recovered.
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I live in the North Western part of BC Canada. Scientists are puzzeld by the existance of shell food imbedded in the mountain tops surrounding my homeland.
That's because at one time those mountains were below sea level at the bottom of the sea, there is coral half way up mountains.

The Mediterranean sea is known to have dried up at least 6 times.
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And since Godsmission refuted the trilobite, that only leaves the folk lore of a flood..... Which aren't scientific evidence. There's no indication that the floods recorded in those legends were global. They were most likely local
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You need only look at the depth of some coal mines, coal made from trees that lived on the surface once.
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Originally Posted by nagwalk View Post
I live in the North Western part of BC Canada. Scientists are puzzeld by the existance of shell food imbedded in the mountain tops surrounding my homeland.
That sounds very unlikely. I doubt any scientist that has even the most basic introduction to the Earth Sciences in the last 50-60 years would have the slightest doubt as to how fossilised shells got into the mountain tops of British Columbia


Plate tectonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you really do know some scientists who are baffled by fossil sea creatures in mountains send them here and I will explain it to them it isn't a very difficult concept.

Apart from the Bible, we have oral history pointing to a time when the earth was flooded. These stories were among us prior to the coming of the missionaries or the bible
In most parts of the world people have stories about floods because they live near to rivers that flood or near seas that can have tidal waves, and floods make good stories.

Extrapolating that into evidence for a global flood when there is not one scrap of physical evidence for that happening is ridiculous.

I think you need to catch up with the last 100 years or so of geological thought.
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