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Revelation 13: 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
I am just curious as to how people interpret this scripture. Is this a fatal wound? A near fatal wound? An assassination attempt? I am not being dogmatic. Just want to hear people's thoughts on this verse. God bless. |
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Originally Posted by NJBeliever  Revelation 13: 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
I am just curious as to how people interpret this scripture. Is this a fatal wound? A near fatal wound? An assassination attempt? I am not being dogmatic. Just want to hear people's thoughts on this verse. God bless.
Rev. 13:1-2 (the beast from the sea) is in no way, no how referring to the individual False Christ. I'm sure you know this beast is the amalgamation of the beasts of Daniel; IE Kingdoms - The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
As we are told in Rev. 17, the 7 heads are 7 mountains, not kings. Physical landscape, land masses. NOT individual people. As also explained in chapter 17, the waters are people. So 7 land masses, encompassing the whole earth, rising from the peoples of the world = global kingdom, government, political system, etc.
When one of these mountains (continents) is wounded (war, secession, etc), the whole beast dies. IE a deadly wound. Only through supernatural Satanic intervention does it survive. Enter the beast from the earth, the individual False Christ.
Bottom line, it is abundantly clear that if one spends even a little time studying, one can see that it is not an individual that receives the deadly wound in Rev. 13:3, but part of a kingdom.
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Reps: 134,673,994,446,807,584 (power: 134,673,994,446,813) | | Originally Posted by Zadok7000 Rev. 13:1-2 (the beast from the sea) is in no way, no how referring to the individual False Christ. I'm sure you know this beast is the amalgamation of the beasts of Daniel; IE Kingdoms - The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
As we are told in Rev. 17, the 7 heads are 7 mountains, not kings. Physical landscape, land masses. NOT individual people. As also explained in chapter 17, the waters are people. So 7 land masses, encompassing the whole earth, rising from the peoples of the world = global kingdom, government, political system, etc.
When one of these mountains (continents) is wounded (war, secession, etc), the whole beast dies. IE a deadly wound. Only through supernatural Satanic intervention does it survive. Enter the beast from the earth, the individual False Christ.
Bottom line, it is abundantly clear that if one spends even a little time studying, one can see that it is not an individual that receives the deadly wound in Rev. 13:3, but part of a kingdom. Yes...the first beast is a one world system. With all the turmoil and chaos in our present financial situation I have wondered if the deadly wound is to finance...which will be healed (stimulus package)? The second beast, mentioned below, isn't far behind with his miracles. As the deadly wound is caused "by a sword"..... Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
My question is, if indeed the wound is financial, then...what type of sword causes the wound? Strong's gives the following as the definition for this particular sword: Sword #3162 machaira, fem. of a preseumed der. of 3163; a knife, i.e. dirk; fig. war, judicial punishment: - sword.  |
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Reps: 42,256,237,674,769,616 (power: 42,256,237,674,773) | | Originally Posted by Zadok7000 Rev. 13:1-2 (the beast from the sea) is in no way, no how referring to the individual False Christ. I'm sure you know this beast is the amalgamation of the beasts of Daniel; IE Kingdoms - The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
As we are told in Rev. 17, the 7 heads are 7 mountains, not kings. Physical landscape, land masses. NOT individual people. As also explained in chapter 17, the waters are people. So 7 land masses, encompassing the whole earth, rising from the peoples of the world = global kingdom, government, political system, etc.
When one of these mountains (continents) is wounded (war, secession, etc), the whole beast dies. IE a deadly wound. Only through supernatural Satanic intervention does it survive. Enter the beast from the earth, the individual False Christ.
Bottom line, it is abundantly clear that if one spends even a little time studying, one can see that it is not an individual that receives the deadly wound in Rev. 13:3, but part of a kingdom.
Well you are partially correct. The Beast does represent the Beast Gentile Kingdoms throughout history (as described in Daniel_. And the Beast of the Sea is not a person. It is actually EIGHTEEN PEOPLE. Reading Revelation 17 will make that abundantly clear since the angel tells John exactly who all 18 people are. There is no guessing, speculation or intuiting. It's just a straight, literal reading of the scripture. And it's 18 people. One of which (one of the seven heads), is the antichrist.
It is not a nation or kingdom that is wounded. It's a person. The seed of Satan as per Genesis 3:15. The antichrist. |
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Reps: 124,429,925,349,782,112 (power: 124,429,925,349,792) | | Originally Posted by NJBeliever Well you are partially correct. The Beast does represent the Beast Gentile Kingdoms throughout history (as described in Daniel_. And the Beast of the Sea is not a person. It is actually EIGHTEEN PEOPLE. Reading Revelation 17 will make that abundantly clear since the angel tells John exactly who all 18 people are. There is no guessing, speculation or intuiting. It's just a straight, literal reading of the scripture. And it's 18 people. One of which (one of the seven heads), is the antichrist.
It is not a nation or kingdom that is wounded. It's a person. The seed of Satan as per Genesis 3:15. The antichrist.
No offense, but give me a break, you are making this up. God says 7 heads = 7 mountains. NJBeliever says 7 heads = 7 people. I'll stick with God.
Do a word study on "oros".
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Reps: 42,256,237,674,769,616 (power: 42,256,237,674,773) | | Originally Posted by Zadok7000 No offense, but give me a break, you are making this up. God says 7 heads = 7 mountains. NJBeliever says 7 heads = 7 people. I'll stick with God.
Where did I ever say 7 people?
I said EIGHTEEN. |
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I said EIGHTEEN.
Could be 100, doesn't matter, it's still made up. Study Oros.
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Revelation 17: 9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth (there is your Oros!).
10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space (that would be 7 people so far).
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition (now we are at 8).
12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (that is 10 more).
13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.(8 kings + 10 kings = 18 kings)
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