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Old 15th October 2009, 02:15 PM
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A Good example of AVET's Dishonesty

Originally Posted by VirOptimus View Post
Yes I'm sure. You will note that I said today in my post.

Words and concepts change over time as I'm sure you know. Semantic games is not something that can either prove or disprove science or the scientific method.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
What does 'today' have to do with this thread?

I'm trying to reconstruct the past here.
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I find it interesting that you didn't mention that he may have been taught that by his predecessors.

You claim he didn't discover this [at-the-time] scientific fact, yet you didn't give credit to his predecessors.

I have a feeling he was indeed made a scapegoat to shift the focus off of the fact that scientific errors can, and are, perpetuated.
VirOptimus had your purpose in making this thread pegged from the start.. just as we all did. You are like an Bad Open Book to us. In response you deceitfully claimed your purpose was just to "reconstruct the past." Finally, you admit the truth, that you are trying to use Aristotle to discredit science today. Is this something Jesus would do, or a Pharisee? Or perhaps a certain Fallen Angel? Answer that, AVET.
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Old 15th October 2009, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
I'm trying desperately to keep this thread focused off of the word 'today', and putting the emphasis on 'then'.

I know what you guys are trying to do, and I'm too vigilant to fall for it.

I don't even want to see the word 'today' in this thread; but hey, that won't stop you guys, will it?
rather ironic because whenever history comes up in reference to Christianity, Christians wont touch it with a 15 foot pole.

you know, like slavery, genocide and the crusades. apparently no one did things in respect of the bible until 1990

AV did the scientific method exist in the time of Aristotle?
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
I'm trying desperately to keep this thread focused off of the word 'today', and putting the emphasis on 'then'.

I know what you guys are trying to do, and I'm too vigilant to fall for it.

I don't even want to see the word 'today' in this thread; but hey, that won't stop you guys, will it?
Don't be upset that the ebil scientists pointed out your underhanded deceit.

Nice try.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Did Aristotle discover that air has no mass?
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
I have a feeling he was indeed made a scapegoat to shift the focus off of the fact that scientific errors can, and are, perpetuated.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
I'm trying desperately to keep this thread focused off of the word 'today', and putting the emphasis on 'then'.

I know what you guys are trying to do, and I'm too vigilant to fall for it.

I don't even want to see the word 'today' in this thread; but hey, that won't stop you guys, will it?
So, you really meant to write, " I have a feeling he was indeed made a scapegoat to shift the focus off of the fact that scientific errors could, and were, perpetuated." Right, Mr. Pharisee?
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AV, you could save everyone and yourself a lot of time and aggrivation if you would simply state your thesis clearly in your OP.
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Originally Posted by GoSeminoles! View Post
AV, you could save everyone and yourself a lot of time and aggrivation if you would simply state your thesis clearly in your OP.
Sure:

Did Aristotle discover that air has no mass?
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Originally Posted by GoSeminoles! View Post
AV, you could save everyone and yourself a lot of time and aggrivation if you would simply state your thesis clearly in your OP.
Gosh, if he did that he wouldn't be able to spring his intellectually dishonest and oh so subtle trap on us later in the thread.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Sure:

Did Aristotle discover that air has no mass?
Not a thesis, but a question. Your thesis, which has become apparent, is "science makes mistakes", and to evidence this you chose an example more than two millennia old which has nothing to do with the science practiced today.
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Not a thesis, but a question. Your thesis, which has become apparent, is "science makes mistakes", and to evidence this you chose an example more than two millennia old which has nothing to do with the science practiced today.
I am not going to address you guys' paranoia.
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