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Yes I'm sure. You will note that I said today in my post.
Words and concepts change over time as I'm sure you know. Semantic games is not something that can either prove or disprove science or the scientific method.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
What does 'today' have to do with this thread?
I'm trying to reconstruct the past here.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
I find it interesting that you didn't mention that he may have been taught that by his predecessors.
You claim he didn't discover this [at-the-time] scientific fact, yet you didn't give credit to his predecessors.
I have a feeling he was indeed made a scapegoat to shift the focus off of the fact that scientific errors can, and are, perpetuated.
VirOptimus had your purpose in making this thread pegged from the start.. just as we all did. You are like an Bad Open Book to us. In response you deceitfully claimed your purpose was just to "reconstruct the past." Finally, you admit the truth, that you are trying to use Aristotle to discredit science today. Is this something Jesus would do, or a Pharisee? Or perhaps a certain Fallen Angel? Answer that, AVET.
__________________ “The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense." -Bishop John Shelby Spong
"It is not the obligation of the State to reconcile various faiths with reality. Do it yourself." -Atomweaver
"We have designed our civilization based on science and technology and at the same time arranged things so that almost no one understands anything at all about science and technology. This is a clear prescription for disaster."
- Carl Sagan (Demon Haunted World)
I'm trying desperately to keep this thread focused off of the word 'today', and putting the emphasis on 'then'.
I know what you guys are trying to do, and I'm too vigilant to fall for it.
I don't even want to see the word 'today' in this thread; but hey, that won't stop you guys, will it?
Don't be upset that the ebil scientists pointed out your underhanded deceit.
Nice try.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
I have a feeling he was indeed made a scapegoat to shift the focus off of the fact that scientific errors can, and are, perpetuated.
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
I'm trying desperately to keep this thread focused off of the word 'today', and putting the emphasis on 'then'.
I know what you guys are trying to do, and I'm too vigilant to fall for it.
I don't even want to see the word 'today' in this thread; but hey, that won't stop you guys, will it?
So, you really meant to write, " I have a feeling he was indeed made a scapegoat to shift the focus off of the fact that scientific errors could, and were, perpetuated." Right, Mr. Pharisee?
__________________ “The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense." -Bishop John Shelby Spong
"It is not the obligation of the State to reconcile various faiths with reality. Do it yourself." -Atomweaver
"We have designed our civilization based on science and technology and at the same time arranged things so that almost no one understands anything at all about science and technology. This is a clear prescription for disaster."
- Carl Sagan (Demon Haunted World)
AV, you could save everyone and yourself a lot of time and aggrivation if you would simply state your thesis clearly in your OP.
Gosh, if he did that he wouldn't be able to spring his intellectually dishonest and oh so subtle trap on us later in the thread.
__________________ “The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense." -Bishop John Shelby Spong
"It is not the obligation of the State to reconcile various faiths with reality. Do it yourself." -Atomweaver
"We have designed our civilization based on science and technology and at the same time arranged things so that almost no one understands anything at all about science and technology. This is a clear prescription for disaster."
- Carl Sagan (Demon Haunted World)
Not a thesis, but a question. Your thesis, which has become apparent, is "science makes mistakes", and to evidence this you chose an example more than two millennia old which has nothing to do with the science practiced today.
Not a thesis, but a question. Your thesis, which has become apparent, is "science makes mistakes", and to evidence this you chose an example more than two millennia old which has nothing to do with the science practiced today.