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15th October 2009, 02:26 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by PreachersWife2004  The problem with the question is that a mere parasite (Which many consider a fetus to be) doesn't have to form intent to be a user.
But it makes me shudder to think that we live in a society that is perfectly at ease calling an unborn baby a parasite.
it boggles my mind as well that the least of these, those most helpless, and without a voice, or any way of defending themselves can be deemed " parasites"
I believe that term should be used for most gov't officials.
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It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
15th October 2009, 02:31 PM
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I sure didn't ask about his job description, just what do his statements re abortion have to do with his actual duties. Hint: rhetorical question - answer: not a thing. All this hoopla for irrelevancies. The point of my post is that, if most of the population was asked on the street what a regulatory czar does, how many would know, or even be aware there is such a person who is sappin their tax dollars, unbeknownst to most of the American citizens, and this "regulatory czar", is a top regulatory person with decision-making power, would have such thoughts as i posted in my first post (see above).
But who should care what his views on abortion are when they have nothing whatsoever to do with his actual job! His thoughts that he chose to share are disturbing.
To some, but not to others. If his job had anything to do with abortion you might have some cause to raise a ruckus, but as it is....sheesh.
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15th October 2009, 02:38 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by aisy_Day I sure didn't ask about his job description, just what do his statements re abortion have to do with his actual duties. Hint: rhetorical question - answer: not a thing. All this hoopla for irrelevancies.
But who should care what his views on abortion are when they have nothing whatsoever to do with his actual job!
To some, but not to others. If his job had anything to do with abortion you might have some cause to raise a ruckus, but as it is....sheesh.
you have your opinion on his statements. I have mine.
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~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
15th October 2009, 03:37 PM
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Reps: 293,424,014,973,578,752 (power: 293,424,014,973,591) | | Originally Posted by brinny it boggles my mind as well that the least of these, those most helpless, and without a voice, or any way of defending themselves can be deemed "parasites"
I believe that term should be used for most gov't officials.
personaly, I believe the term should be reserved for mosquitos, ticks, and leeches. You know, actual parasites. But then its hard when both sides of the debate wish to use emotional rhetoric rather then logical arguments. But whatever works I guess.
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15th October 2009, 04:08 PM
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it boggles my mind as well that the least of these, those most helpless, and without a voice, or any way of defending themselves can be deemed "parasites"
I believe that term should be used for most gov't officials. Originally Posted by Belk personaly, I believe the term should be reserved for mosquitos, ticks, and leeches. You know, actual parasites. But then its hard when both sides of the debate wish to use emotional rhetoric rather then logical arguments. But whatever works I guess.
after much agonizing thought, i've come to the conclusion that most parasit-ic amongst the classes of parasites, accurately defines most gov't officials.
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~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
15th October 2009, 04:17 PM
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Just because this guy doesn't have anything to do with abortion doesn't mean we don't have cause to be concerned about what he says.
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15th October 2009, 04:25 PM
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Reps: 17,648,511,778,771,420 (power: 17,648,511,778,782) | | Originally Posted by PreachersWife2004 So unless it has something to with their jobs, we should never look at what someone says outside of their jobs as indicators of their personality??
Just because this guy doesn't have anything to do with abortion doesn't mean we don't have cause to be concerned about what he says.
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I don't know if he should be fired or not, but if Obama was smart, he'd quit finding these bozos and appointing them to his white house.
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15th October 2009, 04:42 PM
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So now he is a bozo and Obama is stupid? |
15th October 2009, 04:43 PM
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Reps: 1,048,985,195,837,867,008 (power: 1,048,985,195,837,901) | | Originally Posted by chaz345 Got a question about the premise of the author. How can an non-sentient blob of tissue "use" anyone? In order to use someone doesn't the ability to form an intent need to exist?
If you had read the quote, the foetus is NOT the user he is referring to. Rather to those who would use the foetus' existence to limit women's right of control over their own bodies.
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