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Originally Posted by MrGoodBytes View Post
I was pointing out that BlackAndy's post about the Obama administration being unduly worried about "a couple of radio personalities" vastly underestimated the reach and influence of right-wing media in the US. There are over 9 million people listening to Glenn Beck, arguably the craziest one of them all, alone.
I'm still stuck on the fact that Obama is worried about them. They're radio personalities. They have opinions, just like you and I do. Sometimes they're wrong, just like you and I. We express our opinions here where many people can see them, they express their opinions on a frequency.

Why does Obama need to be worried about that? Wasn't he elected by a landslide (as some have maintained here)? Or is there something to the "right wing" media that has him worried?
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It's not smart to pick a fight with a news outlet. Perhaps Obama should read up on Nixons fight with the news papers......turned out real bad for him.
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Originally Posted by MrGoodBytes View Post
There are over 9 million people listening to Glenn Beck, arguably the craziest one of them all, alone.
Indeed Beck is the worst of the worst. He even makes Savage look almost sensible.

I don't think Obama should go after them, though. I think he should thank them for demonstrating the nuttiness of right wing extremisim. I'm not too worried about the numbers, either. There may be a couple million that actually believe their nonsense, but most of the listeners are more likely just tuning in to hear the freak show.

And it's not even like Fox news is all bad. Shepherd Smith's show and Special Report with Brett Baier are pretty good, as is Julie Banderas' show on the weekends.
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I can only assume having seen some highlights that its likely everything he says is crazy
OK. Please give some examples of those "crazy highlights".
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OK. Please give some examples of those "crazy highlights".
"With that being said, you are a Democrat. You are saying, "Let`s cut and run." And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, "Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies. And I know you’re not. I’m not accusing you of being an enemy, but that’s the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way."[3]

The Glenn Beck TV Show, November 14, 2006, Glenn Beck to Keith Ellison.
Keith Ellison is the first Muslim member of congress in the US.
During the 2009 Henry Louis Gates controversy, Beck argued that President Barack Obama has repeatedly shown "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture," saying "I'm not saying he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist."[70]
Would you kill someone for that?...I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore...I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it,...No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus — band — Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, 'Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore,' and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, 'Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death.' And you know, well, I'm not sure. [1]

The Glenn Beck Program, May 17, 2005
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Originally Posted by PreachersWife2004 View Post
I'm still stuck on the fact that Obama is worried about them. They're radio personalities. They have opinions, just like you and I do. Sometimes they're wrong, just like you and I. We express our opinions here where many people can see them, they express their opinions on a frequency.
We don't have fifteen million people a week listening to what we have to say. Limbaugh does. I don't need to lecture you about the power of mass media, do I?

Why does Obama need to be worried about that? Wasn't he elected by a landslide (as some have maintained here)? Or is there something to the "right wing" media that has him worried?
He's just as worried about Fox as conservatives were worried about the "liberal bias" of the media back in the halcyon days of the Bush administration.
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Originally Posted by MrGoodBytes View Post
We don't have fifteen million people a week listening to what we have to say. Limbaugh does. I don't need to lecture you about the power of mass media, do I?
You don't need to lecture me about anything.

So, if these 15 million are really that bothersome, what's Obama's options?

He's just as worried about Fox as conservatives were worried about the "liberal bias" of the media back in the halcyon days of the Bush administration.
So he's just as stupid? Great. I thought that his mantra was change, but I guess not.
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Originally Posted by PreachersWife2004 View Post
You don't need to lecture me about anything.

So, if these 15 million are really that bothersome, what's Obama's options?
Hoping the median level of education in the US will rise during his presidency?

So he's just as stupid? Great. I thought that his mantra was change, but I guess not.
He is acknowledging the power of the media, and right now, a sizable portion of them are firmly in control of the far right. I don't know what's so stupid about that.
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they hate the truth. it makes them burn.
Obama, this is how crazy you've made canukian!

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Hoping the median level of education in the US will rise during his presidency?
But he can't control that.

He is acknowledging the power of the media, and right now, a sizable portion of them are firmly in control of the far right. I don't know what's so stupid about that.
No, one network has a right lean to it. How many networks lean to the left?? There's at least two out there.

As you pointed out, many conservatives have always maintained there was a left bias to the MSM. When we did it, though, we were called names, made fun of, etc. But now, when Obama is doing it, it's called being smart and "acknowledging the power of the media". Riiiiiight.

I tell ya, my grandpa (who happens to be a democrat) is right. He's been referring to the democrats as the party of double standards.
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