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The sun by perfect chance is the right distance from the earth.
The Earth's orbit is elliptical, in other words the distance varies. There's nothing perfect about it.
Originally Posted by Meshach
The earth by perfect chance is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.
If the environment in which we exist couldn't support our existence, we wouldn't be here in the first place. So the fact that we are here means that there's a 100% chance that we're in an environment that can support our existance. How creationists can be astonished by a 100% probability I find a constant source of amusement.
Originally Posted by Meshach
The moon by perfect chance is the right distance from the earth for its gravitational pull. By perfect chance the moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.
Oh, stop with the perfect chance nonsense. Just about any distances and any number of moons would result in tides. Even without moons, the Sun alone would have a significant tidal influence.
Originally Posted by Meshach
By perfect chance we have water which is colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life. By perfect chance water has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees. By perfect chance water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that thousands of chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels. By perfect chance water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body. By perfect chance water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.
Water is generally agreed upon to be a requirement for life. It's a very abundant molecule, which again, has nothing to do with perfect chance, being an extremely simple molecule. Btw, those smallest blood vessels and tallest trees evolved, so there's no perfect chance or design involved. Also, "water is chemically neutral"? Have you never heard of hydrolysis before? Water participates in reactions all the times.
Originally Posted by Meshach
By perfect chance water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.
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Originally Posted by Meshach
By perfect chance ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.
Again, if the environment in which we exist couldn't support our existence, we wouldn't be here in the first place. So the fact that we are here means that there's a 100% chance that we're in an environment that can support our existance.
Originally Posted by Meshach
By perfect chance the human brain simultaneously processes an amazing amount of information. Your brain takes in all the colors and objects you see, the temperature around you, the pressure of your feet against the floor, the sounds around you, the dryness of your mouth, even the texture of your keyboard. Your brain holds and processes all your emotions, thoughts and memories. At the same time your brain keeps track of the ongoing functions of your body like your breathing pattern, eyelid movement, hunger and movement of the muscles in your hands. By perfect chance The human brain processes more than a million messages a second. Your brain weighs the importance of all this data, filtering out the relatively unimportant. This screening function is what allows you to focus and operate effectively in your world. The brain functions differently than other organs. There is an intelligence to it, the ability to reason, to produce feelings, to dream and plan, to take action, and relate to other people. By perfect chance the eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.
Take just one of these things I listed away and see how we would do.
You still don't get it. Things didn't evolve in spite of the way things are, they evolved because of the way things are.
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Exactly! This very moment is the combined outcome of a series of random events that culmulated in where we are right now.
But what you seem to be missing is that the die didn't always land on 7. The dice fell on snake-eyes again and again countless times before 7 came up and even many times after! But it all started with the first 7 that was rolled.
In the Beginning, there were but a single set of dice. Just how many times those dice were thrown will never be known but all it took was for it to land on 7 once. After that, for each 7 rolled, another pair were added to the pool.
And those dice are still being rolled even now. But keep in mind, 7 still rarely comes up in the grand scheme of the universe but with enough Dice constantly being rolled, we're bound to hit the jackpot given enough time.
And that's all you need to remember about the universe.
Your right if you believe that. Its a CRAP shoot for sure. Have faith it happened that way. I will put my faith elsewhere.
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Well then its obvious then. Natural selection is your god . Nothing guiding it or telling it or directing it. Its doing ALL THIS on its own. No intelligence behind it at all. just random happenings. Chance has to be in there somewhere. Lots and big time chance. Air to breath, lungs to breath with, brain to think and do. Eyes to see. Sun strategically placed. Moon, very important. Water, totally necessary. Heart to pump that blood through many miles of veins. Reproduction system, respiratory system, muscular system, skeletal system, nervous system. Food for the stomach and the stomach for food. Take just one of these things I listed away and see how we would do. Now according to the theory we started out as a single cell. SO all these things just came along over time due to natural selection.Lol, and people scoff at the idea that God did it?
You imply that that's so impossible.
Please, explain how it's so impossible..
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If the Anthropic Principle is a PRATT, then why isn't there life on every single planet in this solar system --- including their moons?
Because life can't necessarily exist everywhere.
However, that doesn't really matter with respect to the Anthropic Principle. The Anthropic Principle is the idea that the Earth was created just so we could exist, and not that we exist because of the way the Earth happens to be.
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To get a grasp on the amount of mutations we are dealing with here...
A recent experiment on bacteria went through 40,000 generations to produce a single change that enabled it to digest something it had not previously been able to handle. Between humans and a putative human-ape ancestor ten million years ago there are a maximum of perhaps one million generations, depending on the reproductive age at different stages. On the basis of the experimental evidence, that gives time for about 25 minor changes in an asexual species. At a minimum some 30 million changes are required, all of which have to be fixed in the genes despite the hurdles of sexual reproduction.
That's a many-many-many-sided dice
... it's a sphere!
To get a grasp on the amount of mutations we are dealing with here...
A recent experiment on bacteria went through 40,000 generations to produce a single change that enabled it to digest something it had not previously been able to handle. Between humans and a putative human-ape ancestor ten million years ago there are a maximum of perhaps one million generations, depending on the reproductive age at different stages. On the basis of the experimental evidence, that gives time for about 25 minor changes in an asexual species. At a minimum some 30 million changes are required, all of which have to be fixed in the genes despite the hurdles of sexual reproduction.
That's a many-many-many-sided dice
... it's a sphere!
It sure is!
Evolution is like a cheap fps (frames per second) movie, with most of the frames missing.
There's just not enough seconds in the universe for evolution to have gone from abiogenesis to us.
Your right if you believe that. Its a CRAP shoot for sure. Have faith it happened that way. I will put my faith elsewhere.
You obviously know nothing about games of Chance......
You see, if you agree that it's a Game of Chance then you are also conceeding that it's a Probable Metaphor.. You're not doing much for your arguement by giving up your only point of contest.
We can Prove that a pair of Dice has a chance to come of 7. This isn't Faith. This has nothing to do with Faith. OK. Betting your whole Life-Savings that a pair of dice WILL Land of 7 if you roll; that's Faith. It's also not playing the game based on it's odds either.
Even something has no more then a 1% chance of something occuring still has a chance to occur. It doesn't matter how low of a chance of something occuring. This doesn't change the fact that, if it did occur, it still occured!
The only way to argue against chance is to prove that those dice will never land on 7; which you can not do.
__________________ John Lennon--"I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now? Reality leaves a lot to the imagination."
I've been to Wonderland once too often...... one can no longer tell the difference betwix me and the Hatter!
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