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12th October 2009, 06:36 AM
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Reps: 9,511,385,061,023,796 (power: 9,511,385,061,027) | | | The Axis of Evil Reading the reports and seeing the news of the two nations that Bush labeled as 'The Axis of Evil' are turning out to be true to the title. North Korea allows inspectors to inspect, and upon their first visit they see outright a nuclear missile program. The next day Kim Jong Ill kicks out the inspectors. So he shows us he has nukes, for what reason? But a spit in the face. Then he starts to fire missiles over Japan. If the Soviet Union ever did that we would have nuclearly annihilated our selves. Their claims to south Korea are becoming more chilling, to the previous position of the declawed communist country. If their misery erupts in drama, which historically it has been nearly proven, what says that for Asia?
And as for Iran, Imanutjob was a first denying the holocuast, then later threatening to exterminate Israel, and lastly blasting western powers for excessive dominion. Now he is silent. Now they are closer to nuclear ambitions then ever before. New plants opening next to holy cities. What concerns me most is Imanutjob's silence. The way he talks to reporters. He has things written down for him, obscurely comments on previous statements, its as if the Iranian state is trying to shut him up to perserve peace, or they are being patient, as they are dedicated to war.
In conclusion Obamas military tactics may be affected by the end of the status quo for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the emphasis of a need for a protection against the nuclear arming rouge states.
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12th October 2009, 06:45 AM
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12th October 2009, 09:47 AM
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No, he didn't and what you fail to point out is that every single presidential candidate of the last race said explicitly that 'with Iran no options are off the table' -- which is actually a serious international crime. In conclusion Obamas military tactics may be affected by the end of the status quo for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the emphasis of a need for a protection against the nuclear arming rouge states.
The US is a rouge state, arms other rouge states and has no business policing the world. | 
12th October 2009, 12:34 PM
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Yes. Time for the US to bring all its troops home.
Nominations for 'world policeman' anyone?
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12th October 2009, 01:35 PM
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12th October 2009, 01:36 PM
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Reps: 487,428,604,501,145,536 (power: 487,428,604,501,153) | | Originally Posted by Steve Petersen Yes. Time for the US to bring all its troops home.
Nominations for 'world policeman' anyone?
France! They were always good at running away when the going got tough...
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12th October 2009, 04:41 PM
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16th October 2009, 10:46 AM
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Reps: 81,069,577,993,580,368 (power: 81,069,577,993,592) | | Originally Posted by Echetus Reading the reports and seeing the news of the two nations that Bush labeled as 'The Axis of Evil' are turning out to be true to the title. North Korea allows inspectors to inspect, and upon their first visit they see outright a nuclear missile program. The next day Kim Jong Ill kicks out the inspectors. So he shows us he has nukes, for what reason? But a spit in the face. Then he starts to fire missiles over Japan. If the Soviet Union ever did that we would have nuclearly annihilated our selves. Their claims to south Korea are becoming more chilling, to the previous position of the declawed communist country. If their misery erupts in drama, which historically it has been nearly proven, what says that for Asia?
And as for Iran, Imanutjob was a first denying the holocuast, then later threatening to exterminate Israel, and lastly blasting western powers for excessive dominion. Now he is silent. Now they are closer to nuclear ambitions then ever before. New plants opening next to holy cities. What concerns me most is Imanutjob's silence. The way he talks to reporters. He has things written down for him, obscurely comments on previous statements, its as if the Iranian state is trying to shut him up to perserve peace, or they are being patient, as they are dedicated to war.
In conclusion Obamas military tactics may be affected by the end of the status quo for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the emphasis of a need for a protection against the nuclear arming rouge states.
Perhaps Ahmadinejad is silent on the issue (as you claim he is) because the threat of a pre-emptive war against his country has marginally reduced since the conclusion of the Bush Administration. During Bush's time in Office some were talking of a pre-emptive strike on Iran. Is Ahmadinejad - is any leader - supposed to be silent at such a prospect? Notice how when talk of war against Iran decreased so too has its leader's rhetoric (that is, if you are correct and that is true). The correlation might be significant. It might not. Just throwing ideas out there...
But certainly, one would not expect any leader to be silent when the threat of war looms. Was Bush silent when the terrorist threat seemed at its peak? No. He, like any other political leader would, sharpened the rhetoric.
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16th October 2009, 04:36 PM
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Reps: 128,547,453,959,722,656 (power: 128,547,453,959,734) | | Originally Posted by Steve Petersen Nominations for 'world policeman' anyone?
Woah! So it's "big government bad", but "world policeman good"? |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |