I'm aligned with RoyWM on this one, it seems. Yes, conservative Christian men still think that looking at a woman with lust in the heart is still a sin, but like most people I never considered that to mean that mentally undressing a woman is what the verse deals with. It requires something truly lustful, personal, and, I'd say also, ongoing.
oh no your absolutely correct. Our values have gotten very far away from what is correct in gods eyes. I'm a 17 year old male and granted I do screw up and have lusts many times, but I certainly don't justify it. I also want you to know that not looking at porn at times is incredibly hard for a guy so don't jump to conclusions that a guy thinks its okay when he really doesn't. I'm highly conservative and I view right and wrong as clear as black and white. That doesn't mean I'm perfect, I just do believe in absolute truth. It seems like our views of right and wrong have become liberalized where each person needs to decide for themselves what's right and wrong. I say morals are like math. You have the right to say that 2 + 2=5. You would be wrong, but you can say that. you can't decide what's right and what's wrong. God already decided that for you. Your goal is to match up to gods will.
My wife and I were watching a TV show the other night, I don't remember which one, but it had a pretty woman dressed in a full length dress and nothing was laid bare. I told her I wished all women dressed like this today. There is nothing wrong with admiring a pretty woman, much the same as admiring a pretty sunset, but the human heart is quick to turn it into sin. I'm just looking forward to the day when all this will be past
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just wanna say that I don't intend to make men angry by my post, I'm just expressing frustration with the secular perspective on this, but I'm not angry at the frustration that men face. Hope people know the difference
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Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.
just wanna say that I don't intend to make men angry by my post, I'm just expressing frustration with the secular perspective on this, but I'm not angry at the frustration that men face. Hope people know the difference
Well I don't think its men only, Satan tempts women in the same way. I'm not sure which is worse, but my guess would be men.
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Well I don't think its men only, Satan tempts women in the same way. I'm not sure which is worse, but my guess would be men.
I don't know about men being worse. My wife says that I was innocently oblivious to the fact that woman were always trying to hit on me when we were dating and even after we were married and had kids. I never really saw it, but she swears that women were lusting after me.
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I don't know about men being worse. My wife says that I was innocently oblivious to the fact that woman were always trying to hit on me when we were dating and even after we were married and had kids. I never really saw it, but she swears that women were lusting after me.
Well what would you expect when you look like John Wayne
Yes I'm sure you're right, I just think of all the sexual crime such as rape and child molestation which is more prevelant in men.
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I have read historical accounts of various temperance movements in the US and overseas. When led by anything less than God's dealing with the individual, law is being pronounced, and it is this law that has caused so much tremendous grief, condemnation and misery in the lives of those who strive under an ungodly yoke to be perfect.
It is important to remember that it is God who works in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure; otherwise, such organizational attempts at change are nothing more than the dead letter of the law or condemnation.
Well what would you expect when you look like John Wayne
Yes I'm sure you're right, I just think of all the sexual crime such as rape and child molestation which is more prevelant in men.
Yeah, I always fancied myself after my childhood hero John Wayne. I used to do a fair impression/impersonation of him.
My Dad was Gary Cooper rugged handsome and smooth.
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if you wet down your jeans...jump up and down for 15-20 minutes to get them on....
if you look like cat woman in skin tight jump suit
if people can tell whether or not you have bikinni waxed
if people are looking at you when they should be working
if your name is being written on bathroom stalls
perhaps you need a total make over....from Deliliah to Leah...
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