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Old 9th October 2009, 06:11 AM
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Purgatory, some think there is some don't know some think there isn't. What evidence do we have, present anything please. (Keep it short, don't spam)
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There’s already a Purgatory discussion under way on Christian†Forums. Here’s the path.

Theology > Unorthodox Theology > Purgatory

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Old 9th October 2009, 11:37 AM
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There’s already a Purgatory discussion under way on Christian†Forums. Here’s the path.

Theology > Unorthodox Theology > Purgatory

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There is no "unorthodox theology"
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RE: There is no "unorthodox theology"

Try the link

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Old 9th October 2009, 01:08 PM
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Too many useless posts in that one, like full pages. No one's gonna read that, lol.
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RE: Too many useless posts in that one, like full pages. No one's gonna read that

You did say in msg #1 to “present anything” did you not? If you didn't truthfully mean "anything" then you shouldn't have used that word.

Perhaps you should utilize the Edit button to revise your statement to make it clear that you're only interested in an adolescent level, shoot-from-the-lip, locker room bull session rather than a serious, Bible-oriented discussion.

Purgatory is a very grave matter as there are millions of Catholics around the world depending on the existence of one as a safety net when they cross over to the other side. If it can be shown clearly, and without ambiguity, that a Purgatory does not exist; then those same Catholics have good reason to panic and start sweating blood, so don't sport with this topic. It's not an issue to be taken lightly.

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It's not an issue to be taken lightly.
I believe it is.
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RE: Too many useless posts in that one, like full pages. No one's gonna read that

You did say in msg #1 to “present anything” did you not? If you didn't truthfully mean "anything" then you shouldn't have used that word.

Perhaps you should utilize the Edit button to revise your statement to make it clear that you're only interested in an adolescent level, shoot-from-the-lip, locker room bull session rather than a serious, Bible-oriented discussion.

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I changed it.
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Purgatory, some think there is some don't know some think there isn't. What evidence do we have, present anything please. (Keep it short, don't spam)
Why don't we talk about what a belief in purgatory DOES to someone, both good and bad, rather than trying to debate its existence? It might be a bit more productive.....
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Why don't we talk about what a belief in purgatory DOES to someone, both good and bad, rather than trying to debate its existence? It might be a bit more productive.....
I would definitely allow this, what do you believe to be the benefits and the detriments?
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