Christ taught us how to disagree whole heartdly

Christ never kissy pooed up to those he disagreed with.

you never heard of him agreeing with some to disagree.

You can stake every sent you have on this truth
when Jesus our only savior from our sins disagreed with some one.

He disagreed whole heartdly.


let us stand up for Jesus his truths the same way.

I agree, but speaking against the heresies promoted in the congregational boards is not allowed. They don't have to be accountable for what they believe to the larger body of Christ and the actual words of scripture. Instead you get reported for bringing to light the ways their beliefs disagree with scripture.

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So Christ has truly set us FREE. Now make sure that you stay FREE, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law. Gal 5:1

Folks,

Our Lord knew the heart of those he rebuked, we do not. We may discuss things freely, remembering that we are commanded to love God and neighbor..... as well as brother. This is a Christian community and there are debate forums to debate doctrinal issues, amongst brothers, friends and neighbors. This means that when posting on Christian Forums, we temper our responses with charity and grace.

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1 Peter 3:15-16 Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope, but do it with gentleness and reverence, keeping your conscience clear, so that, when you are maligned, those who defame your good conduct in Christ may themselves be put to shame.

That being said, I agree, truth should never be compromised for the sake of getting along!

Agreed.... I do not support relativism, but I do support proper dialogue..... a godly disputation

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I just got reported twice for merely posting the actual Bible verses that others referenced. The verses didn't actually say anything what they purported. I guess we just have to let people be unaccountable to any review on the congregational boards.

I know what you mean.

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So if the Son makes you FREE, you will be FREE INDEED. Jn 8:36
So Christ has truly set us FREE. Now make sure that you stay FREE, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law. Gal 5:1

Wow, I thought I was alone up here in this regard.

While I do believe in a respectful dialogue I also think it wrong to attack someone simply for stating that something is what it is.

If a car is blue and someone comes along and says it is blue he is not judgmental but rather discerning.

If someone says that it is red then they are a liar. Identifying them as such is not judgmental it is using discernment. However I usually only make a fuss when it comes to Biblical truths.

God bless all. Great OP by the way

Originally Posted by resistingrexmundi

If someone says that it is red then they are a liar. Identifying them as such is not judgmental it is using discernment. However I usually only make a fuss when it comes to Biblical truths.

Calling people offensive names is never a good idea, including "liar". Doing so goes against a direct command from Jesus Christ (Matthew 22:39): "A second is equally important: 'Love your neighbor as yourself'". You can humbly express your point of view while also respecting the views of others.

Jeff

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Someone should have told that to Jesus, John, and Paul because like it or not sometimes the truth is offensive. That is part of the reason it is so convicting. I realize how bad I felt when my life had the light of truth shed on it, but I am glad someone had the courage to do so.

Jesus did tell us to love our neighbor as ourself. He also to told us to love one another as He loved us. Sometimes our love for one another puts us in a position where we have to be blunt to save someone from continuing down a twisted path.

Jesus had no problem identifying liars, neither did Paul or John. And neither do I. When someone is lying, especially about the Bible, it is imperative that they be dealt with directly. This is in no way showing hatred or being overly critical. Some may call it mean but I think it would be even more mean to pander and try to preserve niceties rather than let them know they are wrong. Especially if they are leading others astray.

Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jhn 8:55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1Jo 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

If Jesus truly is our example, as he most certainly is, the command to love one another as He loved us dictates that we be honest. That isn't to say you have to go out of your way to be insulting. But identifying someone for what they are, especially in terms of biblical truths, is part of loving them. All scripture is good for correction and reproof.