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Old 9th October 2009, 12:06 AM
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Real lutheran theology.

Did You know that our most famous pastor dr Luther Taught we must bear real and true sins to be saved . That God Does not save imagenery sinners.
but i tell ya what saddly . ya now days have lutherans who must be just imagenary sinners
because they wont bear real and true sins. It MUST BE a fact because many Lutherans must have forgotten how to sin.But they readly see sins in other's. You would think they would then at least be able to learn by example.

well iam lutheran let me tell you about my sins. one of my most daming sins
is being a hypocrete. I must love to do it because it comes so naturaly.
i also am guilty of sexual sins . oh i know the moderators can look my name up
and know who i am..


but its true I am guilty of sexual immorality . I am guilty of hating my neighbors and racism I am guitly of wanting people dead and wanting them to suffer .

I am guitly of every mean spirited thing under the sun .

i am a lutheran who must bear real and true sins to be saved because God did not send his beloved Son to die and save only imagenary sinners.

my sins are strong.Yet by Gods grace alone . My trust in My only savior from my sin's his forgivness won for me . Is EVEN stronger Still.

PRAY HARD MY FRIEND i HOPE YOU TO ARE A MIGHTY SINNER.
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Old 29th October 2009, 02:48 AM
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If I am not mistaken Luther posted the book of Romans on the door of the catholic church.

Romans justified by faith and saved by grace.
So if you allow your sins to hold you back, how can you ever move forward?
will you demonstrate your faith by bearing your sins before non-christians or will you rise up and share the grace of God with your non-christian friends?

We all sin and have fallen short of the glory of God.
I think sometimes we tend to use our sins as bragging rights of what we used to do rather than be ashamed of them and how we disobeyed God. What righteousness does this bring?

Just some thoughts!
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If I am not mistaken Luther posted the book of Romans on the door of the catholic church.
Really? I thought it was just his 95 Theses.
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Yes, it was his 95 theses. There is no record of him posting the book of Romans on any door. By the way, posting the 95 theses on the church was not a big deal because it was common practice to post such things there.
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Well, it was enough of a big deal to eventually get him excommunicated.
The posting on the door was normal, what he posted was very unusual.

Here's a little wisdom from the good Dr. Luther:

This life is ...
not godliness, but growth in godliness
not health, but healing
not being, but becoming
not rest, but exercise.

We are not now what we shall be
but we are on the way;

The process is not yet finished,
but it has begun;

This is not the goal,
but it is the road;

At present all does not gleam and glitter,
but everything is being purified.


- ML, A Defense and Explanation of All Articles (AE 32:24)
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Originally Posted by CantateDomino View Post
Well, it was enough of a big deal to eventually get him excommunicated.
The posting on the door was normal, what he posted was very unusual.

Here's a little wisdom from the good Dr. Luther:

This life is ...
not godliness, but growth in godliness
not health, but healing
not being, but becoming
not rest, but exercise.

We are not now what we shall be
but we are on the way;

The process is not yet finished,
but it has begun;

This is not the goal,
but it is the road;

At present all does not gleam and glitter,
but everything is being purified.


- ML, A Defense and Explanation of All Articles (AE 32:24)
I agree. Although he was hardly the first Reformer, he certainly had a profound impact and his message resonated deeply.
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I agree. Although he was hardly the first Reformer, he certainly had a profound impact and his message resonated deeply.
Who was the first reformer?
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Some would say Jesus, but then there were Jewish reformers such as Hillel and others.

As far as the Catholic Church goes, Savanorola definitely predated Luther and did not get excommunicated. However, way before him there was Peter Waldo in Italy who, like Luther, was booted out of the church. His followers were branded heretics and hunted down. However, the Waldensian Church survives to this day in Italy and is considered to be a Protestant Church, albeit with much older roots than the Protestant Reformation.
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I apoloize for being mistaken about what was posted.
But my point I was trying to make was why Luther left the Catholic Church at that time and yes why he was ex-communicated.

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Originally Posted by bbbbbbb View Post
Savanorola ... Peter Waldo
Also Jan Hus, Wycliffe ...

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Savanorola definitely predated Luther and did not get excommunicated.
Excommunication and execution of Savanorola
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