This story has been floating around the internet for some time now, it seems, and I admit to having difficulty finding “main-stream” news sources which have covered it. However, I wanted to know what members here thought.
Back in June the Senate Judiciary Committee held hearings on Senator Ted Kennedy's "Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act." Listed as bill S. 909, it was never voted on as a stand-alone bill. According to multiple sites around the web, Senators Leahy and Levin attached it to the Pentagon Budget under the Defense Authorization Act, S 1390.
The concern here as voiced by conservatives is that S. 909 should be known as the “pedophile protection act”, in that it defines many sexual orientations requiring protection by federal prosecutors. One such quote:
“Yesterday, Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) spoke on the floor of the U.S. Senate and argued essentially that since he couldn't get 60 honest votes to pass the "Punish Pastors, Protect Pedophiles" hate crimes S. 909 as a stand-alone bill, it should instead be attached as an amendment to S. 1390, 'The National Defense Authorization Act.”
“Staffers for Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) then admitted the homosexual bill
could be attached and voted on as early as Wednesday (tomorrow!)”
S. 909 appears to be a follow-on to HR 1913, already passed in the house, which, according to various watch-dog web sites, grants “547 Sexual Deviance’s to be Protected by Federal Marshals.”
Quote:
“Attempts by House Republicans to add amendments stating “pedophilia is not protected as a sexual orientation” were specifically blocked and defeated by House Democrats. Lesbian Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) expressed opposition to excluding pedophiles from the bill, and Democrats voted with her to strike any child-protection amendment. She claimed that pedophiles would not be defined within “sexual orientation,” but wouldn’t put that in writing, and refused to define that phrase “sexual orientation,” which Congressman Steve King (R-IA) said will include all 547 sexual deviances listed in the American Psychiatric Association’s DSM-III manual of clinical psychoses, including pedophilia, so now thanks to most Democrats, child molesters will be protected by federal law. In response on the House floor, Congressman Alcee Hastings (D-FL) not only admitted it would, but defended that all 547 psychoses SHOULD be defended by this new law, saying, “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘Philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”
U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings reads sex fetishes on House floor
Quote:
“Hastings urged passage of the bill, saying it would help end violence based on prejudice and hate, would encourage people to report hate crimes and would ensure that “all of these -philias and fetishes and -isms that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are.’’
“The bill says that "whoever ... willfully causes bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, a dangerouse(sic) weapon, or an explosive or incendiary device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person ... ''' etcetera.”
According to the official summary of HR 1913, quote:
“Adopts the definition of "hate crime" as set forth in the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (i.e., a crime in which the defendant intentionally selects a victim, or in the case of a property crime, the property that is the object of the crime, because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, disability, or sexual orientation of any person).”
End Quote.
Hmmm…..all of these “philias and fetishes and isms”. Covers a lot of ground there. According to numerous sources, all of the following would be covered under the umbrella of S 909.
* Incest - sex with one's offspring
* Necrophilia - sexual relations with a corpse
* Pedophilia - sex with an underage child
* Zoophilia - bestiality, a crime in numerous states
* Voyeurism - a criminal offense in most states
* Fronteurism - a man rubbing against an unknown woman's buttocks
* Coprophilia - sexual arousal from feces
* Urophilia - sexual arousal from urine
My problems with all of this are numerous, with one primary being the attachment of the bill to the National Defense Authorization Act. If the Democrats are so willing to vote for this measure, why not do it in the open, as a stand-alone bill?
Why do it at all? Crimes of violence are already crimes, and trying to ascertain whether the perpetrator committed the act because they thought their victim might be from this or that category borders on the Orwellian notion of “thought crime” and envisions images of the Thought Police. But this is already been done. Now it appears that some in Congress want to extend this protection to people who should be prosecuted for their acts, and not those who might seek to protect themselves and their children from those same people.
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Nothing? On another thread a charge is made that Republicans vote for gang-rape and the responses are seemingly endless, but no comment at all on this information?
Curious.
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Nothing? On another thread a charge is made that Republicans vote for gang-rape and the responses are seemingly endless, but no comment at all on this information?
Curious.
Maybe nobody cares?
Republican controlled Congress under Bush added ANWR drilling to the budget bill in 2006. This is how they operate. The only difference between your complaint and the ANWR bill is which side is doing it.
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Nothing? On another thread a charge is made that Republicans vote for gang-rape and the responses are seemingly endless, but no comment at all on this information?
Curious.
It could be the misrepresentation of what the bill actually is and the inflammatory language you use to defame it.
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Nothing? On another thread a charge is made that Republicans vote for gang-rape and the responses are seemingly endless, but no comment at all on this information?
Curious.
Should a pedophile who has not acted on their desires be protected from vigilantes? I don't see why not. If we (society, not just the law) punish them just as much as for not acting as for acting, then we remove any deterrent effect the law has, and thus endanger our children.
But, if this is the same bill I remember reading about, it has nothing to do with pedophiles (or other paraphilias) to begin with.
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This is how we got things like Broccoli subsidies for more funding to the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
It’s disgusting that now they are even finding ways to get around the majority vote, while they attach amendments that have nothing to do with the legislation.
No one can read these things beforehand when they are important, either.
These are extreme unconstitutional activities that have become the normal.
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It’s disgusting that now they are even finding ways to get around the majority vote, while they attach amendments that have nothing to do with the legislation.
Requiring that an amendment have some relevance to the original bill would go a long ways toward improving how things are done in this country. This way that they can attach anything to any bill is just plain stupid.
Requiring that an amendment have some relevance to the original bill would go a long ways toward improving how things are done in this country. This way that they can attach anything to any bill is just plain stupid.
Fully agreed.
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If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh.
The past is dead. It was all just a dream...
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To help protect the sanctity of marriage, please keep all affairs heterosexual.
Engineers, the infantry of every industrial revolution, do not spontaneously generate. They are trained out of the bad habits developed by the craftsmen that preceded them.
Senator Leahy called S. 909 "Punish Pastors, Protect Pedophiles?"
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