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Old 31st October 2009, 08:09 AM
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Yes, it was nice, no doubt about it, but for those of you who are new-ish and haven't been reading AL's posts for the last year, there is more to it than what is just written here. Based on what he's said in the past, I think he was mostly just blowing off steam anyway.
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Old 31st October 2009, 04:07 PM
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Wisdom would say that you just don't wake up one morning in a marriage as say I no longer have a desire to be intimate with my husband. There must be circumstances between this timeframe that has brought about this change in her emotional attitude. In most women this comes about through a searing of the heart by something that has devastated her in some way.


But wisdom doesnt disctate that whatever happened flows from her husbands behavior. This is the "therefore" that is the usual leap in thinking. IF...just IF the question is asked in such a way as to not be an impeaching question...it works. Impeaching questions are self defined.
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Originally Posted by bellarose8 View Post
Autumnleaf,

Maybe your wife is sick of your selfishnes, maybe she is sick of your lies, maybe she is tired of your adultry, maybe she is just tired of taking care of seven children by herself, I'm sure that she is tired of you thinking that all you have to do is work and provide shelter and food for your family. I bet that she probally isn't interested in you because she is about to deliver her 8th child next sat, or maybe it's the hemroid that developed a bloodclot that makes her not in the mood. Sounds to me like you are a selfish man who doesn't care about his wife or kids needs but likes pretend that he is getting the short end of the stick so that he can justify his actions of adultry and abuse.
Originally Posted by bellarose8 View Post
Autumnleaf,


I wonder if you are not just a selfish man. Maybe your wife is tired of your lies,adultry,selfishness,maybe she is tired of taking care of seven kids by herself , maybe she is tired of you thinking that your only responsibility to her and your children is to provide food and shelter. Maybe she is not interested in you because she is about to deliver your 8th child, or maybe it's that hemroid that developed a bloodclot that keeps her from being in the mood. Or maybe she is just tired after fifteen years being with someone who doesn't respect her needs, like a phone call when your gonna stay out for four extra hours after your meeting, or like when she wakes up to find you gone with no explanation only to have you arrive home four hours later and she is suppose to believe that you were just driving around. Well good luck to you autumnleaf but I afraid your gonna have alot more time on your hands soon and alot less money.


ouch.
I noticed youre new here, Bellarose8....are these accusations founded ?
Not saying they arent, but Id hope that statements this condemning are based on facts..

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Old 25th December 2009, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mkgal1 View Post
BellaRose (Mrs AL?)
? Did I miss something ?
Often, it just doesn't seem to get through until there is a problem sexually....and even then, the sense of entitlement clouds the REAL issues.
Completely agree. Ive seen a LOT of cases where the wifes withdrawing from her husband physically is a direct result of his abuse and neglect and a list of other 'misuses' of his wife.
In most of the cases Ive seen, the husband then starts to act like a spoiled child who isnt getting what he wants. In some of those cases he then begins to use the old line 'wifes submit to your husbands' as a manipulation tool to get her to 'put out'.
Its a disgusting cycle of emotional and spiritual abuse perpetrated against these wives.

It angers me that so many believe that women just manipulate and use sex as a weapon. We enjoy being close to our husbands, but when we are making pleas to him that we are feeling alone in the marriage, or used, or treated like an appliance....it really doesn't cause those feelings of affection to rise up in us.
Obviously husbands and wives arent always 'in the mood' at the exact same time...not only concerning sex, but for walks, talks and a list of other things. If we give to our spouses as we are called to by our God then neither spouse will be without anything they need....be it physical, emotional or spiritual.
Problem is that some take it all for granted, then whine when things blow up in their face. I can see that going on in three or four marriages of friends and family presently.

I pray the delivery of the new baby goes well. I pray that Mrs AL has a strong support of friends to get her through this...I pray that AL will snap out of his pride and realize what he is doing.
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Old 26th December 2009, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HuntingMan View Post
ouch.
I noticed youre new here, Bellarose8....are these accusations founded ?
Not saying they arent, but Id hope that statements this condemning are based on facts..

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they may be straight from the horses mouth
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Originally Posted by Hosannainthehighest View Post
they may be straight from the horses mouth
These ?
Originally Posted by bellarose8 View Post
Autumnleaf,

Maybe your wife is sick of your selfishnes, maybe she is sick of your lies, maybe she is tired of your adultry, maybe she is just tired of taking care of seven children by herself, I'm sure that she is tired of you thinking that all you have to do is work and provide shelter and food for your family. I bet that she probally isn't interested in you because she is about to deliver her 8th child next sat, or maybe it's the hemroid that developed a bloodclot that makes her not in the mood. Sounds to me like you are a selfish man who doesn't care about his wife or kids needs but likes pretend that he is getting the short end of the stick so that he can justify his actions of adultry and abuse.
Originally Posted by bellarose8 View Post
Autumnleaf,


I wonder if you are not just a selfish man. Maybe your wife is tired of your lies,adultry,selfishness,maybe she is tired of taking care of seven kids by herself , maybe she is tired of you thinking that your only responsibility to her and your children is to provide food and shelter. Maybe she is not interested in you because she is about to deliver your 8th child, or maybe it's that hemroid that developed a bloodclot that keeps her from being in the mood. Or maybe she is just tired after fifteen years being with someone who doesn't respect her needs, like a phone call when your gonna stay out for four extra hours after your meeting, or like when she wakes up to find you gone with no explanation only to have you arrive home four hours later and she is suppose to believe that you were just driving around. Well good luck to you autumnleaf but I afraid your gonna have alot more time on your hands soon and alot less money.
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Old 26th December 2009, 04:14 PM
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They (accusations) may be coming straight from the horse's mouth....meaning she (Bella Rose) may know so much about the situation because she is IN the situation (as the wife).
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