Can someone explain what the Rapture is please?

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1 Thess 4:
13Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.


1 Cor 15:

50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."
55"Where, O death, is your victory?


Psalm 50:


4He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. 5Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.


Psalm 75:

2When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly.


Isaiah 26:

19Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

20Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.


Rev 12:
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


Here, it happens to the two witnesses about 3 1/2 years after we were removed:

Rev 11:
11And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


There is most definitely a catching away of the church to the throne of God prior to the 3 1/2 year time of wrath when the Day of the Lord is beginning.

Your article states that Catholics DO believe in the gathering to Christ but apparently the RCC doesn't take a position as to the timing.

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Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

I can actually partially agree with you on this...

while the rapture or "harpazo / catching away" is taught, dispensationalism was and is not taught in the Bible. Many, many verses rebuke that false teaching, and history of the church also proves dispensationalism as a false teaching as well

Yep

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Dispensationalism?

You mean the idea that Israel was chosen, then set aside to allow the church to come in. Then the church is removed, while God deals with Israel again? God is bringing the two together to make "one new man" in Christ.

If that's what dispensationalism is, then it's definitely Biblical.

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Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

no, it's nto Biblical... the term "dispensation" has nothing to do with some set time period of epoch in which man is tested in obedience to God's Will...

it is simple means stewardship or administration.

Dispensational premillennialism is already condemned because OT prophesies were directly fulfilled by the church.

you add division where there should be unity

Excuse me, I guess I don't know what "dispensationalism" is.

I thought it meant that Israel is set aside to allow the church to come in. That is definitely Biblical.

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Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

i guess you don't know what it is, because it's not Biblical, and it can be proven that it's not, not only with scripture, but with your teacher's own words, and it can be proven with history that it did not exist, and any teaching otherwise was false... do some research on Justin Martyr. If Dispensational Premillennialism was taught in the time of Christ, the teaching itself would be evident in the writings of the early church... and guess what? nowhere is it found in the early church.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7401.../#post53023755
http://www.christianforums.com/t7401.../#post53023814

you should really consider doing your research on your so-called "Biblical" doctrine... if you actually did the research instead of blindly buying what your dispensational teachers tell you to be true, you'll see that they're simply pushing their own agenda

Why should I read what some guys thought when I have the Bible?

Here's what the Bible says:

Micah 5:
3 Therefore Israel will be abandoned
until the time when she who is in labor gives birth
and the rest of his brothers return
to join the Israelites.

"She who is in labor gives birth" is found in Rev 12. - it is the catching away of the church.

Romans 11:
25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.


All through the minor prophets, it speaks of Israel's abandonment and then reconciliation to God.

Even Rev 7 shows that Israel and the church are still separated as the Day of the Lord is beginning.

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Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

some guy's thought?... dude, this is what you BLINDLY defend and promote...
AND THE WORD OF GOD ITSELF PROVES DISPENSATIONALISM TO BE A FALSE TEACHING.

and will you research it?... of course not!
you don't care if you're right or wrong... when it turns out you're wrong, you'll still blindly believe the lie to be true.

with Ryie's OWN WORDS, he condemns the very doctrine he teaches, BECAUSE THE WORD OF GOD PROVES HIM WRONG, AND THE WORD OF GOD PROVES YOU WRONG.
the doctrine you cling to so dearly has been proven to be condemned.

Now it's up to you: will you continue to believe in a doctrine that has been PROVEN to be false?

We must have patience with them. Some are still just "babes" in JESUS

Grace Online Library
Dispensationalism, Premillenialism, the Rapture, Tribulation Period, C.I. Scofield, Bible Prophecy

.........Dispensationalism has a pervasive influence not only extensively, but also intensively. It is usually the case that those who embrace its teachings as a system are affected in almost every area of their theological thinking.

So pervasive is its effect on those who have become its pupils, that even those who have come to see the error of its basic presuppositions testify that dispensational cobwebs have remained in their thinking for a long time after the initial sweeping took place. My own experience bears witness to the truth of what I say.............

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2 kings 6:17 And 'Eliysha` is praying and saying "YHWH, open! please! his eyes and he shall see"


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