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Old 5th October 2009, 08:05 AM
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Does God punish us for thoughts we can't control and don't want?

Does God punish us for thoughts we can't control and don't want?
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Old 6th October 2009, 04:54 AM
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Does God punish us for thoughts we can't control and don't want?
No God will never do that.
A good parent will not punish a child for stuttering or tourettes or any illness.
God is much more loving and kind than human parents.
He understands our weaknesses and is touched by our infirmities.
He came to heal the broken hearted and set at liberty those who are bruised.
He leads us to still waters and restores our soul
He invites us to come to Him for rest and will not cast us out.
He came to save us
He loves us..
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Old 6th October 2009, 08:14 PM
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Old 30th November 2009, 02:32 AM
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I remember this one time..im not sure what it was..im in a dark time in my life at the moment..but one day i was fumming mad..cursing etc..blasphemies and more..and in it all..in one moment..I felt God kiss me..im not sure if it was Him or not..

just to show you..He is more then your sin.and He is not scared of it..He is much bigger
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Old 30th November 2009, 07:27 PM
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I use to have thoughts I couldn't control and didn't want. God didn't punish me for them, though for the longest time I punished myself for them. No, God eventually pulled me out of them and taught me how to think things that were true, honest, pure, lovely, of good report. it isn't easy... I gave up television, and other things. and basically memorized scripture to replace these thoughts... anytime I had one of those thoughts, I would cast it down and say a scripture.

"We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ." 2 Corinthians 10:5.

this is the verse I stand on! because for so long, my thoughts ruled my life. my thoughts influenced my actions.

But no, Jesus doesn't punish you. He loves you. He can help you with this if you want Him too and ask Him.

Praying for you.
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I don't mean to take over teh thread or anything, but I have a question concerning this. Okay, how do you consider them uncontrollable, I mean its like can feel mine comeing on (if that makes sense) and if Im by myself I can stay things out loud or I can yell or scream or something to make them go away, but whenever Im in public I cant, and thats when I feel responsible for them. See, its like somethign will trigger me (like anything concerning God, especially if it has something to do with the Holy Spirit) and Ill think bad thoughts but I'll try to block them out before I can say them in my head and it takes down my anxiety but when I slip and let one happen before I can say something that will cancel it out, I feel responsible. its like ill say a cuss word in my head and then before i put something to do with God along with it, Ill say something else and it eventually takes down my anxiety, but when I slip and let something about God, Jesus, or the Holy Spirit I feel bad. Does anyone know what Im talking about?
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Old 30th November 2009, 10:01 PM
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I know what you are talking about Caty. yes, you can feel them coming on.

I felt mine were uncontrollable though, because my daydreams were perverted by that of past abuse, things like that. so I would have victim stories in my mind. and for awhile I would allow them, because I saw myself as a victim. but then, when I started recovering, I had thought them for so long, they were almost impossible to stop and replace them with something else. Trying to block something like that out, just doesn't work. I needed God's help to show me the Truth on how to stop them.
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[quote=Caty;53628576]I don't mean to take over teh thread or anything, but I have a question concerning this. Okay, how do you consider them uncontrollable, I mean its like can feel mine comeing on (if that makes sense) and if Im by myself I can stay things out loud or I can yell or scream or something to make them go away, but whenever Im in public I cant, and thats when I feel responsible for them

Hi Caty, In my experience... it doesn't matter whether or not you feel them coming on... I mean it's pretty rare when OCD is bad to not have them intruding on your every waking moment. But this business of saying things or shouting things to try and undo or cancel them... well that's the compulsive side of the disorder. That's the fuel that gives those thoughts so much power and validation. They are not worthy of your attention. They aren't worthy of the battle you wage against them. But every time you go after them like that you are making them seem important to your brain. It puts them in a place of prominence due to your fighting them.
Yes... I do know what you're talking about. I think I've told you this before but I'll say it again. What you are describing is abnormally/normal in the way pure "O" OCD manifests itself. But you still have the choice to "just let them be there" to refuse to let them bully you around. Yes... the anxiety is going to peak when you do that, but in time you will be retraining your brain to view them in a different light. It takes time, patience, grit and perseverance but in doing so your brain will become so habituated to their presence that it will stop freaking out over them.
Meanwhile... I'm ever praying on your behalf.
Hang in there kiddo!
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thanks, i just worrying sometimes because my counselor once told me that i have ocd like symptoms but she never told me that i had ocd, she just said we should work on the anxiety problem. so sometimes i worry i dont have ocd, especially when i get mad at God an they come on. or if they are really bad or the thing i dont want to say. like if i hear soemthing about God and I know it will trigger a thought its like i feel worse about it then if the thought just popped up randomly.
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