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5th October 2009, 12:20 AM
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Reps: 147,002,159,151,389 (power: 147,002,159,161) | | | Confusion on John 23:19-23 In John 23:19-23 most of the disciples were together when Jesus appeared, breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit." However, according to Acts the disciples don't received the Holy Spirit until after Jesus had ascended into heaven Acts 2:1-4.
I'm having difficulties finding anything that focuses on comparing and contrasting these passages. Could you please point me to some resources that could help me understand what appears to be a discrepancy. And if you can give me any insights you may have would be greatly appreciated.
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5th October 2009, 05:31 AM
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16th October 2009, 10:21 PM
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16th October 2009, 11:40 PM
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I take this as recieving the Holy Spirit and living the power of the Holy Spirit as seperate things.
There are many saved born again Christians today that have recieved the Holy Spirit but live somewhat defeated lives.
What we see in Acts is the power of God to change a man from defeated and hiding out to the evangelists we are all called to be.
Hope this helps
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Receiving the spirit of God is a miracle, it's a gift given to those that have been allowed to see their lost condition and they cry out to the Lord: Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. | 
17th October 2009, 03:07 AM
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Reps: 147,002,159,151,389 (power: 147,002,159,161) | | | Thank you, I can see your point of view on the differences of the baptisms. Do you then see the disciples receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit twice or is there something else I'm not getting? | 
17th October 2009, 07:59 PM
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__________________ Living John 8:36 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Receiving the spirit of God is a miracle, it's a gift given to those that have been allowed to see their lost condition and they cry out to the Lord: Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. | 
22nd October 2009, 01:20 AM
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22nd October 2009, 10:32 AM
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Reps: 462,982,839,579,707,968 (power: 462,982,839,579,728) | | | They were seperate events. You are using the word baptism when it's not actually in the scripture. Think about this: Jesus allowed them to believe by letting the Spirit testify in them (receiving the Spirit by the breath of God so they could believe.)
__________________ Living John 8:36 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Receiving the spirit of God is a miracle, it's a gift given to those that have been allowed to see their lost condition and they cry out to the Lord: Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. | 
24th October 2009, 12:12 AM
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Reps: 147,002,159,151,389 (power: 147,002,159,161) | | | I see my error with the baptism label. So they are two separate events. In John they received the Holy Spirit. In Acts they were filled with the Holy Spirit. Is this what you are saying? | 
24th October 2009, 07:05 PM
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__________________ Living John 8:36 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Receiving the spirit of God is a miracle, it's a gift given to those that have been allowed to see their lost condition and they cry out to the Lord: Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |