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4th October 2009, 05:22 PM
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Who Stole the Keeshka? the view from the ethnic side of Orthodoxy.
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4th October 2009, 06:08 PM
| | Christ is Risen! Indeed He is Risen!
  
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Reps: 1,507,808,087,332,004 (power: 1,507,808,087,345) | | | As a Ukrainian who was born and raised dancing to the polka actually featured in the article (yes, I knew the song before listening to the clip) I'm not in entire agreement with the author.
Yes, I'm proud of my Ukrainian heritage, love cabbage rolls, pierogies, and polka. But that is not Orthodoxy. My faith in Christ has nothing to do with my love for the accordian.
And also, I believe there is room at the table for those of us who are "cradle" converts from the traditionally ethnic Orthodox to share in the culture of the converts.
Today my parish had a good old fashioned German Oktoberfest. We had German food (made entirely by Babushka hands) with German beer brewed by German monks.
And ya know what? It rocked!
You know who led the rally for the the Oktoberfest? A sub-deacon in my parish who just happens to be a convert.
So why not learn and experience one another's culture all within the framework of Orthodoxy? I think there's enough room for all to share.
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4th October 2009, 06:54 PM
|  | O most merciful One, glory to Thee
 
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Reps: 1,075,796,170,457,589 (power: 1,075,796,170,460) | | Originally Posted by HandmaidenOfGod  As a Ukrainian who was born and raised dancing to the polka actually featured in the article (yes, I knew the song before listening to the clip) I'm not in entire agreement with the author.
Yes, I'm proud of my Ukrainian heritage, love cabbage rolls, pierogies, and polka. But that is not Orthodoxy. My faith in Christ has nothing to do with my love for the accordian.
And also, I believe there is room at the table for those of us who are "cradle" converts from the traditionally ethnic Orthodox to share in the culture of the converts.
Today my parish had a good old fashioned German Oktoberfest. We had German food (made entirely by Babushka hands) with German beer brewed by German monks.
And ya know what? It rocked!
You know who led the rally for the the Oktoberfest? A sub-deacon in my parish who just happens to be a convert.
So why not learn and experience one another's culture all within the framework of Orthodoxy? I think there's enough room for all to share.
That sounds magnificient!
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8th October 2009, 02:19 AM
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As for the rest--I can understand dislike for "convertitis," but Orthodoxy is not just about ethnicity. If it were, then we ex-Protestants might as well have become Catholic.  I'm in an ethnic parish, myself, and I do try hard not to be the hyper convert trying to change everything. They've welcomed me, I don't get offended when they speak in Greek, and they've looked to me for fresh ideas on how to revitalize the church. My ideas are basically things I've seen in the Protestant "world," but to them they're new. (No, I'm not talking happy-clappy Relevance, but things like putting convert-friendly books/booklets in the entryway.)
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8th October 2009, 02:50 AM
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8th October 2009, 09:54 AM
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Commanders of the heavenly hosts, we who are unworthy beseech you, by your prayers encompass us beneath the wings of your immaterial glory, and faithfully preserve us who fall down and cry to you: “Deliver us from all harm, for you are the commanders of the powers on high!”
Holy Archangel Michael, pray to God for me.
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8th October 2009, 02:12 PM
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Reps: 15,364,752,483,264,326 (power: 15,364,752,483,268) | | | It was a article. I liked it. I really like this satement.
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We of the Orthodox nationalities aren’t perfect… our clergy are not sinless… trust me, there was a revolution in Russia for good reason! None of the Orthodox countries are inherently “holy”. But… there is manifest holiness to be found, much more so than in America because it is rooted in a long Orthodox history. In short, we’ve made our errors… tons of them! If you listen to us, you might avoid them."
However I cannot say appreciated the nasty comments made about my priests and their past. One lady called them losers.
Lord have mercy
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TROPARION; TONE 4
As a faithful ascetic of Saint Herman / you flowered as a spiritual rose in Platina / As an illuminator of Orthodoxy in America / your writings bring hope throughout the world / Having taught us the True Faith / Oh Blessed Seraphim / pray to God for us.
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8th October 2009, 02:21 PM
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8th October 2009, 02:26 PM
| | the worst of sinners
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TROPARION; TONE 4
As a faithful ascetic of Saint Herman / you flowered as a spiritual rose in Platina / As an illuminator of Orthodoxy in America / your writings bring hope throughout the world / Having taught us the True Faith / Oh Blessed Seraphim / pray to God for us. |
8th October 2009, 02:27 PM
| | the worst of sinners
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TROPARION; TONE 4
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