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4th October 2009, 06:07 PM
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Reps: 2,160,465,330,633 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Split Rock I guess they can say it was the result of "The Fall" and "The Curse."
Good call, just a few posts later we have AV making this exact argument. | 
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Reps: 5,570,983,808,792 (power: 0) | | | He'll just QV one of his "challenge" threads, then say "Well, you can't prove it happened, so it must've happened!".
Not exactly Vulcan level logic, there. | 
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I have no idea what all you were talking about.
That whole post was Ελληνικά to me.
The Fall predicts one thing: death.
Fulfilled with 100% accuracy, with two exceptions: Enoch and Elijah, who will return to earth and fulfill that 'prediction.'
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4th October 2009, 06:19 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by ragarth Good call, just a few posts later we have AV making this exact argument.
Split Rock is good at predicting what I'm going to say.
I have a feeling he knows more than the average Joseph.
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Alunyel He'll just QV one of his "challenge" threads, then say "Well, you can't prove it happened, so it must've happened!".
Not exactly Vulcan level logic, there.
I don't even know what Ragarth said to me, let alone find a challenge to QV it to.
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4th October 2009, 06:41 PM
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Reps: 2,160,465,330,633 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I have no idea what all you were talking about.
That whole post was Ελληνικά to me.
The Fall predicts one thing: death.
Fulfilled with 100% accuracy, with two exceptions: Enoch and Elijah, who will return to earth and fulfill that 'prediction.'
Death is predicted by all kinds of superstition. It's also a mechanic of evolution. If things didn't die then iterative progression would be impossible, therefore evolution predicts the necessity of death.
Oh no, we have a problem: 2 postulates predict the same thing! The logical next step is to find some place where they each make differing predictions, then test that so we can establish the correct one. Thankfully this has been done, and evolution wins.
You still haven't provided a method by which sin can cause morphologic drift as shown by the laryngeal nerve. Is it a statistical force? If that's the case, then why isn't 'sin' just a fancy name for evolution? Does the hand of satan reach in and move the laryngeal nerve of every child as it develops? If so, why can't we detect this hand?
Give a mechanism, otherwise 'sin' and 'the fall' are just as much woo as the youtube video that was posted about the guy who wants to create infinite energy by conflating the definitions of current and power. (P = v*I, not P = I. :-) ) | 
4th October 2009, 07:04 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I have no idea what all you were talking about.
That whole post was Ελληνικά to me.
The Fall predicts one thing: death.
Fulfilled with 100% accuracy, with two exceptions: Enoch and Elijah, who will return to earth and fulfill that 'prediction.'
No, they won't. Therefore, falsified.
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Bye now.
Just off the record, Cabal, the Bible pwns that little Feynman Diagram: Originally Posted by 1 John 4:3-4 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
So don't think you're fooling anyone who knows their Bible.
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5th October 2009, 12:07 AM
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Reps: 3,978,662,265,867,660 (power: 3,978,662,265,873) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET The Fall predicts one thing: death.
Fulfilled with 100% accuracy, with two exceptions: Enoch and Elijah, who will return to earth and fulfill that 'prediction.'
And taxes, those are still alive and well.
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5th October 2009, 08:28 AM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Just off the record, Cabal, the Bible pwns that little Feynman Diagram:So don't think you're fooling anyone who knows their Bible.
I don't think I'm fooling anyone who knows their Bible.
I do think, however, I just fooled someone who can't tell humour from an actual point. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |