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4th October 2009, 10:28 AM
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Could someone expound on this verse please? Thanks.
John 16:33 (KJV)
33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. |
12th October 2009, 08:36 AM
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Reps: 1,108,166,248,678 (power: 0) | | | i think if u read the preceding, jesus gives the description of the another, something he was keeping from them as they were not ready for the full truth and becuase whilst he was with them, it was not needed for him to tell them yet...
however, i believe that jesus is saying that he has told them all that so they will not be afraid once he departs becuase another will come to help them again, another human prophet to guide them... and the part about overcuoming the world must be taken in context to the times, he was to be persecuted so to have overcome this, it would mean that he escaped this...
this is seem in the apocolpyse of peter amongst others to be the case... its not found in the NT tho... |
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"I have told you these things, so that in me you have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart, I have overcome the world."
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21st December 2009, 05:25 PM
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Reps: 4,469,601,123,595,931,136 (power: 4,469,601,123,595,947) | | Originally Posted by TR1  i think if u read the preceding, jesus gives the description of the another, something he was keeping from them as they were not ready for the full truth and becuase whilst he was with them, it was not needed for him to tell them yet...
however, i believe that jesus is saying that he has told them all that so they will not be afraid once he departs becuase another will come to help them again, another human prophet to guide them... and the part about overcuoming the world must be taken in context to the times, he was to be persecuted so to have overcome this, it would mean that he escaped this...
this is seem in the apocolpyse of peter amongst others to be the case... its not found in the NT tho...
You are close - but not another human prophet - the Holy Spirit is to which Jesus referred.
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