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6th November 2009, 11:59 AM
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Reps: 54,806,534,063,437,296 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by clirus  Jesus's death on the cross was the payment for the sins of all people, but to receive the benefits of that sacrifice, a person must accept Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and commit to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.
As usual, you're half right...
God does not exclude anyone, they exclude themselves by their own personal decisions.
Revelation 3:20 states, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him and sup with him and he with me."
Don't see anything here about the commandments/doctrines of the Bible...
John 3:16-17 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
Still don't hear anything here about following a bunch of arbitrary rules...
Could it be, clirus, that it's not the Bible, but your own pride which makes you think all these people are excluded? That you just couldn't bear the thought of sharing the Kingdom with certain others?
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8th November 2009, 07:45 AM
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The Lady Kate quote
Could it be, clirus, that it's not the Bible, but your own pride which makes you think all these people are excluded? That you just couldn't bear the thought of sharing the Kingdom with certain others?
Response
Galatians 5:19-22, "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkness, revellings, and such like: of which I tell you before, as I have also told you in the time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. |
8th November 2009, 01:05 PM
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Could it be, clirus, that it's not the Bible, but your own pride which makes you think all these people are excluded? That you just couldn't bear the thought of sharing the Kingdom with certain others?
Response
Galatians 5:19-22, "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkness, revellings, and such like: of which I tell you before, as I have also told you in the time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
You might as well finish it: Originally Posted by Gal. 5: 22-23 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
tulc(just thought this part was as important as the first part) 
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