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2nd October 2009, 11:04 AM
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Reps: 191,460,202,749,131 (power: 191,460,202,760) | | | Relevance of God's Word I am constantly running into people who call themselves Christians  , yet readily admit that they do not take the Bible literally.  I will call these people moral relativists because they preach a tolerance of immorality and a rejection of absolute Truth.
Yes, these folks do talk a lot about the Two Commandment which they say I do not live by because I am as they would say intollerant of sin. I can provide Scripture regarding the abominiation of Homosexuality, Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:24-28, yet whenever I quote these verses I called a bigot and a racist.
So my question is how do I communicate with other Christians who practice a form of moral relativism which I am quite uncomfortable with? Do I ignore the Scriptures when they start telling me that I should support homosexuality including their marriage? Do I just forget the Truth for the sake of getting along?
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3rd October 2009, 04:53 PM
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3rd October 2009, 05:01 PM
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Reps: 3,535,994,952,310,234,624 (power: 3,535,994,952,310,267) | | Originally Posted by RoyWM I am constantly running into people who call themselves Christians  , yet readily admit that they do not take the Bible literally.  I will call these people moral relativists because they preach a tolerance of immorality and a rejection of absolute Truth.
Yes, these folks do talk a lot about the Two Commandment which they say I do not live by because I am as they would say intollerant of sin. I can provide Scripture regarding the abominiation of Homosexuality, Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:24-28, yet whenever I quote these verses I called a bigot and a racist.
So my question is how do I communicate with other Christians who practice a form of moral relativism which I am quite uncomfortable with? Do I ignore the Scriptures when they start telling me that I should support homosexuality including their marriage? Do I just forget the Truth for the sake of getting along? 
Hi Brother,
You communicate the word of God with meekness and fear. Peter tells us:
13 And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good? 14 But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you are blessed. “And do not be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.” 15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear; 16 having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed. 17 For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
There is no compromise for those who follow the word as given, however, we are to not loose sight that we are ambassadors for Christ and as such, we need to love them while ministering to them.
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3rd October 2009, 07:01 PM
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Reps: 191,460,202,749,131 (power: 191,460,202,760) | | Originally Posted by TimRout I believe the Bible is absolutely inerrant as originally given.
Hi Tim,
I also believe in the absolute truth of God's Word. I am greatly comforted in that knowledge which I find enlightening, yet to others it may appear that I am constrained.
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3rd October 2009, 07:04 PM
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Reps: 191,460,202,749,131 (power: 191,460,202,760) | | Originally Posted by Hentenza Hi Brother,
You communicate the word of God with meekness and fear. Peter tells us:
13 And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good? 14 But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you are blessed. “And do not be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.” 15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear; 16 having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed. 17 For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
There is no compromise for those who follow the word as given, however, we are to not loose sight that we are ambassadors for Christ and as such, we need to love them while ministering to them.
Meekness and Fear in the Lord I would expect, yet boldly speaking the Word to those that have ears to hear.
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3rd October 2009, 07:50 PM
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Reps: 3,535,994,952,310,234,624 (power: 3,535,994,952,310,267) | | Originally Posted by RoyWM Meekness and Fear in the Lord I would expect, yet boldly speaking the Word to those that have ears to hear.
Absolutely.
BTW- I also believe in the inerrancy and infallibility of scripture.
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11th October 2009, 10:11 AM
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Reps: 191,460,202,749,131 (power: 191,460,202,760) | | Originally Posted by Hentenza Absolutely.
BTW- I also believe in the inerrancy and infallibility of scripture. 
Thank you, I like your quote.
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12th October 2009, 05:36 PM
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Reps: 19,288,103,689,405 (power: 19,288,103,692) | | My opinion is thus. Some people do not listen. They are easy to spot...they are the ones arguing at the top of their lungs. The ones who you can talk to listen. God gave us free will. If they choose to follow a path different from me, they are exercising the right to do so. I will gladly give a warning if I believe them to be wrong, but if they do not heed, then they must feel. The ones who do heed are the ones I will talk to. Life is too short to waste it on trying to change a fool's mind who is not open to it. But then again, I am only human and I could be wrong  ...I am not perfect. | 
16th October 2009, 10:50 AM
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Reps: 191,460,202,749,131 (power: 191,460,202,760) | | Originally Posted by klasvaakie My opinion is thus. Some people do not listen. They are easy to spot...they are the ones arguing at the top of their lungs. The ones who you can talk to listen. God gave us free will. If they choose to follow a path different from me, they are exercising the right to do so. I will gladly give a warning if I believe them to be wrong, but if they do not heed, then they must feel. The ones who do heed are the ones I will talk to. Life is too short to waste it on trying to change a fool's mind who is not open to it. But then again, I am only human and I could be wrong  ...I am not perfect.
I know what you mean, and it is frustrating trying to communicate with people who only want to hear the sounds of their own voices or egos. I usually give up after a while, but still it tends to leave a bad taste in the mouth like unfinished business.
I guess we just have to move on because we are not accomplishing anything and we are getting frustrated.
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16th October 2009, 05:23 PM
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Reps: 727,432,821,147,579,648 (power: 727,432,821,147,586) | | Originally Posted by TimRout I believe the Bible is absolutely inerrant as originally given.
What he said.
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