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Originally Posted by Meshach View Post
Typical to take the information that is there and twist it and distort it to say what you want it to say. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Goodbye
Typical. Instead of answering a simple question, the creationist just runs away.
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Old 4th October 2009, 05:48 AM
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So it seems that even the creationists have no idea what the benifits of creationism are, I thought I asked a very simple question but I obviously forgot to take one thing into consideration, creationists only ask questions they never ever answer them.
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Old 4th October 2009, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by smloeffelholz View Post
What are the benefits of raising a child to believe in young earth creationism...
His chances of accepting evolution later in life will be mitigated --- qv please: 1.
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... and is a belief in young earth creationism necessary for salvation?
No.
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Originally Posted by godsmission View Post
In what way would it benefit my child?
Well if you teach your child to value faith over fact it's likely they'll be a willing pawn in the business of religion. Stunting their critical faculties in this way will eliminate their need to ask any of the difficult questions, and make uncomfortable truths incredibly easy to ignore. They won't have to get an extensive/expensive education, relying instead on information from authority or just believing whatever they wish to be true.
This will make their life a whole lot easier.
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Originally Posted by Thistlethorn View Post
Typical. Instead of answering a simple question, the creationist just runs away.

I made my answer perfectly clear. Typically the answer is not accepted because its not the answer you wanted to hear.
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Originally Posted by smloeffelholz View Post
Why is it that some Christians feel the need to hide every one of their answers in some kind of code or cryptic message. Why can't you just answer the question plainly and outright?
They love the Matrix, particularly the Oracle character, where entire arguments can be inferred purely from subtext alone.

I also tend to think of premillenialists as LARPers at heart.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
His chances of accepting evolution later in life will be mitigated --- qv please
Clearly you have no idea how offputting the collective head-in-sand of creationism is to people.

No.
Ditto for TE.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
His chances of accepting evolution later in life will be mitigated --- qv please: .No.
Thank you for the straightforward answer. Though I don't see denying evolution as a benefit (and I would suppose that many others on this list, Christians included, would agree with me), at least you came right out and said what you meant. Others participating in this thread could learn from you... just hopefully not too much.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
His chances of accepting evolution later in life will be mitigated --- qv please: 1.No.
OK, so you say that creationism isn't necessary for salvation, yet it is a benefit because it would prevent the child from accepting evolution later. Why is that a benefit, considering you and most creationists accept that populations of organisms do indeed evolve?
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Originally Posted by Meshach View Post
I made my answer perfectly clear. Typically the answer is not accepted because its not the answer you wanted to hear.
Your response seems to be "no," yet for some reason you don't want to make it clear. "No" or "Yes" or "Maybe" or "I Don't Know," would be a clear response. Frankly I would accept whatever response you gave, since it really is just a matter of opinion, afterall.
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