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You are describing the benefits (as you see it ) of being a Christian. The OP asked what the benefits of being a Creationist are. Do you see being a Creationist as necessary for being a Christian, or necessary for Salvation?
Oh I see, so your posts 4 and 6 of this thread you were referring to Creationists, not Christians? What if all the info that you find out in
evolution you are in actual fact discovering God's creative process. What if man's term "evolution" and all it entails is in actual fact God's creative process. Then could one consider it Creationism? It would explain where all the information is coming from. Instead of hoping, or having faith that DNA , RNA, natural selection or whatever else you can muster up is bringing it all about on there own.
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I asked Jesus "How much do you love me?" He answered "This much". Then He stretched out His arms and died for me.
If you have everything but Jesus, you have nothing. If you have nothing but Jesus, you have everything.
Have you given much thought to where you are going to spend eternity?
Oh I see, so your posts 4 and 6 of this thread you were referring to Creationists, not Christians? What if all the info that you find out in
evolution you are in actual fact discovering God's creative process. What if man's term "evolution" and all it entails is in actual fact God's creative process. Then could one consider it Creationism? It would explain where all the information is coming from. Instead of hoping, or having faith that DNA , RNA, natural selection or whatever else you can muster up is bringing it all about on there own.
That would be a form of theistic evolution, which I have no issue with. Would you like to answer my previous question? Is creationism (as usually defined) necessary for salvation?
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"Creationists can't all be right but they can all be wrong."
-Frumious Bandersnatch
No offense, but if you're considering having children, I think you need to prioritize other things rather than whether they'll be an creationist or an evoloutinist. Thanks to the lack of interest my parents had in religion or science, I was raised neither a creationist nor an evoloutionist, I have only the quality of scientific education to thank for my deductions on evolution. Unfortunately, I do not believe they share the same standards of science education in the States.
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That would be a form of theistic evolution, which I have no issue with. Would you like to answer my previous question? Is creationism (as usually defined) necessary for salvation?
John 3:16 answers that question. As a Christian, I am sure God would sooner we focus on the "why" over the "how". The "why", and abiding by it, benefits us all totally in this life, and the "how" will all be made perfectly clear one day . 1 Corinthians 13:12
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I asked Jesus "How much do you love me?" He answered "This much". Then He stretched out His arms and died for me.
If you have everything but Jesus, you have nothing. If you have nothing but Jesus, you have everything.
Have you given much thought to where you are going to spend eternity?
John 3:16 answers that question. As a Christian, I am sure God would sooner we focus on the "why" over the "how". The "why", and abiding by it, benefits us all totally in this life, and the "how" will all be made perfectly clear one day . 1 Corinthians 13:12
OK... you seem to be saying, no. Correct?
__________________ "We must abandon the prevalent belief in the superior wisdom of the ignorant." – Daniel Boorstin
"Ignorance should NOT be tolerated just because it's cloaked in religion."
-Phred
"Creationists can't all be right but they can all be wrong."
-Frumious Bandersnatch
Here are some verses to read on salvation. Then decide for yourself. If you cant figure it out then I cant help you.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 3:16-17
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Acts 13:38-39
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Roman 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Roman 10:9-13
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Ephesians 1:13-14
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 2: 8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Philippians 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Colossians 2:13-14
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
1 Thessalonians 5:9-10
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
Titus 2:11-14
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1 Peter 1:8-9
Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
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I asked Jesus "How much do you love me?" He answered "This much". Then He stretched out His arms and died for me.
If you have everything but Jesus, you have nothing. If you have nothing but Jesus, you have everything.
Have you given much thought to where you are going to spend eternity?
Here are some verses to read on salvation. Then decide for yourself. If you cant figure it out then I cant help you.
Why is it that some Christians feel the need to hide every one of their answers in some kind of code or cryptic message. Why can't you just answer the question plainly and outright?
Oh I see, so your posts 4 and 6 of this thread you were referring to Creationists, not Christians? What if all the info that you find out in
evolution you are in actual fact discovering God's creative process. What if man's term "evolution" and all it entails is in actual fact God's creative process. Then could one consider it Creationism? It would explain where all the information is coming from. Instead of hoping, or having faith that DNA , RNA, natural selection or whatever else you can muster up is bringing it all about on there own.
You seem to be talking about theistic evolution here, and that is something that cannot be tested by science. It is impossible to tell the difference between a mutation that occurs randomly and one intentionally inserted by an undetectable deity. What you are doing here is misinterpreting the term creationism with respect to how the OP was using it.
If I may be so bold, allow me to restate the questions. What are the benefits of raising a child to believe in young earth creationism, and is a belief in young earth creationism necessary for salvation?
Why is it that some Christians feel the need to hide every one of their answers in some kind of code or cryptic message. Why can't you just answer the question plainly and outright?
What are you saying? You prefer my answer to God's? Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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I asked Jesus "How much do you love me?" He answered "This much". Then He stretched out His arms and died for me.
If you have everything but Jesus, you have nothing. If you have nothing but Jesus, you have everything.
Have you given much thought to where you are going to spend eternity?
You seem to be talking about theistic evolution here, and that is something that cannot be tested by science. It is impossible to tell the difference between a mutation that occurs randomly and one intentionally inserted by an undetectable deity. What you are doing here is misinterpreting the term creationism with respect to how the OP was using it.
If I may be so bold, allow me to restate the questions. What are the benefits of raising a child to believe in young earth creationism, and is a belief in young earth creationism necessary for salvation?
Typical to take the information that is there and twist it and distort it to say what you want it to say. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Goodbye
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I asked Jesus "How much do you love me?" He answered "This much". Then He stretched out His arms and died for me.
If you have everything but Jesus, you have nothing. If you have nothing but Jesus, you have everything.
Have you given much thought to where you are going to spend eternity?