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Old 30th September 2009, 01:52 PM
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life on other planets?

Many say life on other planets would be a problem for Christians.
I don't think so.
I'd be disappointed to find our Lord didn't make life elsewhere.

OTOH, it's a must for evolutionists.
There must be life elsewhere for them.

Thoughts?
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Old 30th September 2009, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
Many say life on other planets would be a problem for Christians.
I don't think so.
I'd be disappointed to find our Lord didn't make life elsewhere.

OTOH, it's a must for evolutionists.
There must be life elsewhere for them.

Thoughts?
Life elsewhere wouldn't necessarily be a problem, but intelligent life is another story. Don't most Christian Creationists insist that the universe was made just for us humans? Finding intelligent life elsewhere, would certainly be a problem for this concept...no?
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Originally Posted by Split Rock View Post
Life elsewhere wouldn't necessarily be a problem, but intelligent life is another story. Don't most Christian Creationists insist that the universe was made just for us humans? Finding intelligent life elsewhere, would certainly be a problem for this concept...no?
As a Christian non-creationist, I would say otherwise, that the Universe was created on his account, not ours.

Colossians 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
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Originally Posted by Merlin View Post

OTOH, it's a must for evolutionists.
There must be life elsewhere for them.

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This is not the case for scientists, there is no absolute. We just think it is likely.
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Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
OTOH, it's a must for evolutionists.
Why?
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If there's intelligent life and the universe is in a fallen state, who paid for their sins ?

Or are the other life forms sin free ?
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Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
Many say life on other planets would be a problem for Christians.
I don't think so.
I suspect that most christians would just adapt their theology to fit, just as it has been done over the centuries for various other things. It's religion. It can be whatever one wants it to be.

OTOH, it's a must for evolutionists.
There must be life elsewhere for them.
Why is it a must for "evolutionists?" You haven't explained why. How would the existence (or non-existence) of life elsewhere affect what has been observed here? This requirement sounds more like wishful thinking to me on your part.
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here's an interesting thought, how will we know if they experience qualia?
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Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
Many say life on other planets would be a problem for Christians.
I don't think so.
I'd be disappointed to find our Lord didn't make life elsewhere.

OTOH, it's a must for evolutionists.
There must be life elsewhere for them.

Thoughts?
Evolution and Christianity aren't mutually exclusive, despite your (possibly unintentional?) dichotomy.

Evolution doesn't require extraterrestrial life, but I see your point. If life can arise on Earth through mundane processes (which is actually abiogenesis, not evolution), then it can arise naturally anywhere the conditions are right. Given the vast, vast, vast number of planets and other environs that exist, it's almost inevitable that life formed elsewhere in the universe.
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