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Reps: 273,058,856,457,603,328 (power: 273,058,856,457,625) | | Originally Posted by sk8Joyful  only "parallel" evolution is possible; why do people assume that?
only '2 legs, 2 arms, 2 eyes placed forward looking on the head,
on a central, upright frame' to be a "fellow cognizant being": why do people assume that?
Why do people assume?, to place their own belief-limitations, on GOD as Creator of all intelligent life, in all its myriad varieties...
Might it be better to think that He, having already Blessed every lifeform with 'intelligence' (including such not
acknowledged by some humans); that God quite competently created, & continues creating any intelligent life forms He chooses...
thoughts?
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If there is a creator god, I'm compelled to believe he works through evolution. Given the variety of life on Earth, it's supremely arrogant of us to imagine all sapient life as humanoid.
I'm inclined to see aliens as more like jellyfish: completely void of anything we might identify with, like a head or even a central nervous system. 
I, for one, accept our new cnidarian overlords.
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1st October 2009, 06:12 PM
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Reps: 49,506,284,250,467,360 (power: 49,506,284,250,480) | | Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child If there is a creator god, I'm compelled to believe he works through evolution. Given the variety of life on Earth, it's supremely arrogant of us to imagine all sapient life as humanoid.
I'm inclined to see aliens as more like jellyfish: completely void of anything we might identify with, like a head or even a central nervous system.
I, for one, accept our new cnidarian overlords.
Personally I think one of the most exciting days in history will be when we find a single celled life form somewhere, anywhere else. I'd be quite happy to see life of any form somewhere else!
Then the coolest turn will be when we find multicellular, non-carbon life somewhere!
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And I too will welcome our Cnidarian overlords. Since they are ultra cool. |
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,796) | | Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child If there is a creator god,
I'm compelled to believe he works through evolution.
Given the variety of life on Earth, it's supremely arrogant of us to imagine all sapient life as humanoid. Evidently, God does create via evolution... displaying these processes exquisitely.
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God empowered all His creations with sufficient intelligence;
(not only humans, most rebellious against God existing), let alone that/how He is our sole Savior...
Animals have no need, of a Savior in the human sense.
How God made all these, including human progress, processes possible - i am in awe of, & profoundly grateful...
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1st October 2009, 08:44 PM
| | | Originally Posted by sk8Joyful Evidently, God does create via evolution... displaying these processes exquisitely.
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If God does work through evolution, then he is a cruel and unjust god. |
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Reps: 73,387,680,619,479,952 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Merlin Many say life on other planets would be a problem for Christians.
I don't think so.
I'd be disappointed to find our Lord didn't make life elsewhere.
OTOH, it's a must for evolutionists.
There must be life elsewhere for them.
Thoughts?
I have a solid grasp on theory of evolution through natural selection, and I can't think of any reason why "there must be life elsewhere." There are literally billions of stars, with trillions of planets, to think that conditions on just one star system may in fact be conducive to life evolving is reasonable, even probable in my opinion.
I do think it presents some interesting problems for the theologist however. If Jesus came to die one for the sin of humanity, where would that leave them. I suppose he could have created a new life system somewhere else in the universe, seeing as he so dreadfully messed up with this one (according to theologists).
I would be interested to hear why the OP believes it to be a must for ToE. |
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I'd almost agree.
Evolution is entirely about elimination of the weak to make way for the strong. Doesn't sound like God to me. Personally I think one of the most exciting days in history will be when we find a single celled life form somewhere, anywhere else. I'd be quite happy to see life of any form somewhere else!
Then the coolest turn will be when we find multicellular, non-carbon life somewhere!
I'll bet money they're gonna find single-celled life on Europa.
I'm more excited for when we discover how to utilize electrogravitics for space travel, if that should ever happen.
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by SimplyNothing Evolution is entirely about elimination of the weak to make way for the strong. Doesn't sound like God to me.
Evolution also says we got here via copying errors.
We're supposedly mutants made in the likeness and image of God.
Doesn't sound like God to me, either.
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We do know that --- we have it in Writing.
This universe is teeming with life from one end to the other.
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Reps: 273,058,856,457,603,328 (power: 273,058,856,457,625) | | Originally Posted by SimplyNothing I'd almost agree.
Evolution is entirely about elimination of the weak to make way for the strong. Doesn't sound like God to me.
Actually, evolution is entirely about adaptive variation. That organisms die is a consequence of a harsh environment; evolution doesn't require that organisms die, but, since they do, it adapts around this inevitable fact.
Just saying  .
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