The dictionary gives several definitions of the word "Faith."
1. to trust in, have confidence in.
2. unquestioning belief in God, religion, etc.
3. complete trust, confidence, or reliance: as children usually have faith in their parents.
4. a religion, or system, of religious beliefs: as, the Catholic faith, Baptist faith, etc.
Using number 4, above, some say that faith is their system of religious beliefs. In other words they have faith (as a child) in their system of religion. Notice that in number 4 the word "IN" is not used. In number 4 the word "faith" is used to denote a label (name) for a religion.
The scriptures do not teach that we are to have faith in our religious systems. Nor are we to have faith in our works. The scriptures teach we are to have faith "in" God. It is easily seen that without the word "IN" after the word faith, the word means nothing but a label (name).
You cannot separate the ideas behind the words "faith," "belief" and "trust" and “confidence” as they are used in scriptural context. The "IN" word is used after the these words to denote what they are supposed to be "IN."
In reality all four words (faith/belief/trust/confidence) can be used to describe each other. In the O.T. the word "faith" can only be found in two places, one in Deuteronomy 32:20 and one in Habakkuk 2:4. The most used word in the O.T. is "trust." ---- In the N.T. the word "trust" can only be found in 18 places. The most used word in the N.T. is "faith." These two words can be used interchangeable since they have the same meaning. However, in scripture there is no context where the words are used to denote a label (name).
The word "persuaded" is defined as believing something. To be "convinced." To have "confidence."
When a child of God is asked about their faith, they will say that their faith is “IN” God‘s work on the cross. If a person‘s answer is about what they do, then their faith is in what they do, not in what God has done on the cross.
You cannot see faith, trust, or confidence since these things exist in the heart. But you can witness as to what you have these “IN”.
Acts 28:24
24 And some were persuaded (some believed, substitution by me) by the things which were spoken, and some disbelieved.
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Rom 8:38-39
38 For I am persuaded (convinced, substitution by me) that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come,
39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Faith/belief/trust/confidence does not describe what I have faith/belief/trust/confidence """"IN."""" None of these words mean anything but a label (name) until the word "IN" follows it. An example; Prov 3:5 ""Trust in"" the LORD with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding;
I don't have faith in belief, or belief in faith. I have faith/belief/trust/confidence "IN" what God has done for me/us on the cross.
I don't own faith, nor belief, nor trust. They are words that describe what I do in my heart. Since it is in my heart it is not a physical work. It is a work of the heart.
According to the scriptures “faith” is a gift of the Holy Spirit. The gift is given when a person humbles him/her self before God acknowledging that they are sinful in the flesh and cannot save themselves and need Jesus‘ work on the cross. I believe, that at that point, the Holy Spirit gives them the gift of faith in Jesus and seals them “in Christ“.
The dictionary gives several definitions of the word "Faith."
1. to trust in, have confidence in.
2. unquestioning belief in God, religion, etc.
3. complete trust, confidence, or reliance: as children usually have faith in their parents.
4. a religion, or system, of religious beliefs: as, the Catholic faith, Baptist faith, etc.
Using number 4, above, some say that faith is their system of religious beliefs. In other words they have faith (as a child) in their system of religion. Notice that in number 4 the word "IN" is not used. In number 4 the word "faith" is used to denote a label (name) for a religion.
It is nice to see that you use the word "some" so that you are not saying the majority of Baptists, Catholics, etc... do what you claim.
Notice that in number 4 the word "IN" is not used. In number 4 the word "faith" is used to denote a label (name) for a religion.
The word "IN" is not used in #4 because the word faith, as used in #4, denotes the belief system of the Church and "IN" would not apply to the definition.
The scriptures do not teach that we are to have faith in our religious systems. Nor are we to have faith in our works. The scriptures teach we are to have faith "in" God. It is easily seen that without the word "IN" after the word faith, the word means nothing but a label (name).
Being a Catholic now and having been a Baptist in my youth, I can honestly say that never of the belief systems want people to trust in their system but want people to trust in God and develop a relationship with him. I also know of no "faith", as in #4, that teaches that we should have "faith", as in #1, 2, or 3, in our works.
You cannot separate the ideas behind the words "faith," "belief" and "trust" and “confidence” as they are used in scriptural context. The "IN" word is used after the these words to denote what they are supposed to be "IN."
Agreed.
In reality all four words (faith/belief/trust/confidence) can be used to describe each other. In the O.T. the word "faith" can only be found in two places, one in Deuteronomy 32:20 and one in Habakkuk 2:4. The most used word in the O.T. is "trust." ---- In the N.T. the word "trust" can only be found in 18 places. The most used word in the N.T. is "faith." These two words can be used interchangeable since they have the same meaning. However, in scripture there is no context where the words are used to denote a label (name).
Since the writers did not write in English, this doesn't have much meaning. We understand how we use our words but we don't fully understand how the Hebrews used theirs.
The word "persuaded" is defined as believing something. To be "convinced." To have "confidence."
What dictionary do you use?
1. to prevail on (a person) to do something, as by advising or urging: We could not persuade him to wait. 2. to induce to believe by appealing to reason or understanding; convince: to persuade the judge of the prisoner's innocence.
When a child of God is asked about their faith, they will say that their faith is “IN” God‘s work on the cross. If a person‘s answer is about what they do, then their faith is in what they do, not in what God has done on the cross.
That depends on how you ask the question and if you demand that they use your definition or another one which is acceptable in English.
You cannot see faith, trust, or confidence since these things exist in the heart. But you can witness as to what you have these “IN”.
Agreed.
Faith/belief/trust/confidence does not describe what I have faith/belief/trust/confidence """"IN."""" None of these words mean anything but a label (name) until the word "IN" follows it. An example; Prov 3:5 ""Trust in"" the LORD with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding;
I don't have faith in belief, or belief in faith. I have faith/belief/trust/confidence "IN" what God has done for me/us on the cross.
Do you have trust in the Gospel? Do you trust in the writings in the scripture? I do. I do because God confirmed these things to me. I don't have trust in how man interprets these things though.
I don't own faith, nor belief, nor trust. They are words that describe what I do in my heart. Since it is in my heart it is not a physical work. It is a work of the heart.
According to the scriptures “faith” is a gift of the Holy Spirit. The gift is given when a person humbles him/her self before God acknowledging that they are sinful in the flesh and cannot save themselves and need Jesus‘ work on the cross. I believe, that at that point, the Holy Spirit gives them the gift of faith in Jesus and seals them “in Christ“.
Much agreement.
You seem like a very humble honest Christian, full of love and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. As a Catholic, I can say that this Church teaches faith in Christ. Faith in God not faith in man or systems. Not all Catholics understand, not all have a strong faith in God, and this is also reflected in all Churches as well. Faith is a gift but it is not doled out equally.
We should all seek out a close personal relationship with Jesus. The closer we become, the more faith we receive. We are persuaded by his presence in our lives.
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