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30th September 2009, 02:32 PM
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Reps: 59,589,388,507,789 (power: 59,589,388,512) | | Originally Posted by JudaicChristian  The numbers do not fit our time because there is a missing element, they are part of a riddle in that parable. What is truly important is not the correctness of the theory, but that Christians do not give up during the wait.
Or simply because the study is flat out incorret. 
Danielic tradition is linked to the old Temple calendar, which does not use lunar years. This is very easy to demonstrate, and has been done by several scholars. I suggest you to read about "Enochian Judaism" (which is a modern term given to the Enochian and Danielic traditions).
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30th September 2009, 03:06 PM
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Reps: 10,847,576,709,873,882 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by fremen Or simply because the study is flat out incorret.
Danielic tradition is linked to the old Temple calendar, which does not use lunar years. This is very easy to demonstrate, and has been done by several scholars. I suggest you to read about "Enochian Judaism" (which is a modern term given to the Enochian and Danielic traditions).
Kol tov,
Fremen I have long ago studied the different times; I even made algorithmic charts. It is not the exactness of time that is important, but that Christians do not lose hope while they are waiting. |
30th September 2009, 05:29 PM
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Reps: 10,847,576,709,873,882 (power: 0) | | | The wording "time, times, and the division of time is applied in more than one way, depending on the sentence. It literally means three and a half. In a search for a relationship of those numbers, the number 5 is the lowest common denominator of those numbers. What is being done is a search for a number, that would make those numbers apply to actual prophecy of our days. We know that there is a limit to the time prophecies, so they have to apply within the certain bounds. The division of those numbers by 5 produces the product numbers 252, 258, and 267. In adding these product numbers we find that the number 777 is produced. As a result of adding that number 777 to those numbers 1260, 1290, and 1335, we find that it produces numbers that are relevant to our time. I would like to point out that those numbers (1260, 1290, and 1335) have no value, in relationship to our time without solving for an unknown. An example of this is the words "Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days." That specifically has to do with the resurrection of the elect in our days to come. Obviously the number 1335 can not apply without other considerations.  |
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How can you be so sure?
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30th September 2009, 11:23 PM
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Reps: 10,847,576,709,873,882 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by visionary How can you be so sure? Vis, it is what we are all waiting for. The Elect in the first resurrection are not judged and are therefore blessed. |
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The Rapture will occur on day 1335. |
1st October 2009, 12:06 AM
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Reps: 40,554,967,364,822 (power: 0) | | | The Gregorian calendar means nothing prophetically. It's not even accurate.
I used to do the same sleight of hand with numbers you did in the OP the temple was destroyed in 586 BC for 70 years stood rebuilt for 586 years and was destroyed in 70 AD.
It does not lend itself credibly and the Hebrew calendar has been shown by those like Sir Robert Anderson to be the calendar of God's prophetic choosing. 1967 just happened to be the year of the 6 day war.
Try taking ancient events on the Hebrew calendar and adding 2520 years to it (to the day) and be amazed. |
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Reps: 10,847,576,709,873,882 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by johnd The Gregorian calendar means nothing prophetically. It's not even accurate.
I used to do the same sleight of hand with numbers you did in the OP the temple was destroyed in 586 BC for 70 years stood rebuilt for 586 years and was destroyed in 70 AD.
It does not lend itself credibly and the Hebrew calendar has been shown by those like Sir Robert Anderson to be the calendar of God's prophetic choosing. 1967 just happened to be the year of the 6 day war.
Try taking ancient events on the Hebrew calendar and adding 2520 years to it (to the day) and be amazed. The Civil Hebrew Calendar is off by 140 years. The Gregorian is off by about 4 years. |
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Reps: 10,847,576,709,873,882 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by johnd
The Rapture will occur on day 1335. Your chart is goofy. And yes the 1335 is related to the resurrection of the Elect. |
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Reps: 21,028,495,701,333,736 (power: 21,028,495,701,336) | | | Sorry for the delayed response guys. I got tied up in another forum. The 1335 days also start from 583 BC when this prophecy was given. 1335 converted to solar years is 1315.776. If you count 1315 years from 583 BC you end up on 732 AD. The Battle of Tours. Where the first Islamic conquest was smashed by Charles Martel. In a battle against all odds Martel killed the head of the Islamic forces and scattered their army. The army was in such a confusion after their leaders death the forces disbanded. This victory was the single event in history that saved the rest of the world from the spread of Islam. Again if you are interested in this subject you should read "The False Prophet" by Ellis Skolfield. It is available for free as a pdf on beholdthebeast.com and fishousministries.com
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