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29th September 2009, 02:35 AM
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Me and my friend got into a conversation the other night about lust. He stated that lust is anything regarding the desire for sex. For example, when you longingly look at a woman, mentally undress her, or masturbate, you are lusting for her.
However, I thought that the literal definition of lust; the intense desire for, was too broad to specifically describe certain sins. For example, what if you had a intense desire to eat a sandwich, or meet someone?
My reasoning is, if you were to never even check a girl out, how would you ever get married?
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29th September 2009, 04:40 AM
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29th September 2009, 04:28 PM
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Reps: 416,617,700,174,524,864 (power: 416,617,700,174,543) | | Originally Posted by lookingforanswers14  Me and my friend got into a conversation the other night about lust. He stated that lust is anything regarding the desire for sex. For example, when you longingly look at a woman, mentally undress her, or masturbate, you are lusting for her.
However, I thought that the literal definition of lust; the intense desire for, was too broad to specifically describe certain sins. For example, what if you had a intense desire to eat a sandwich, or meet someone?
My reasoning is, if you were to never even check a girl out, how would you ever get married?
What do you think?
Exactly. Lust, if you look at the Greek, is the same as coveting- desiring something that isn't yours AND intending to take it.
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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29th September 2009, 08:57 PM
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29th September 2009, 09:36 PM
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Uh... figuratively speaking, yes.
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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30th September 2009, 12:35 AM
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Amen.
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let me ask where you think masturbation falls within this context. |
30th September 2009, 03:58 AM
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2. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power.
Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.
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30th September 2009, 12:45 PM
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Reps: 416,617,700,174,524,864 (power: 416,617,700,174,543) | | Originally Posted by david_x 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving.
2. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power.
Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.
Then my intense desire for sea food right now is wrong.
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dir="ltr"> "Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
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30th September 2009, 01:08 PM
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