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Brother I have never said I see from your point of view.. I don't... so how could I say that.. I cannot say that... I wouldn't say that..

I just say what GOD says.. and a few of my own words.. LOL... Because HE is truth..

Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is fair, whatever is pure, whatever is acceptable, whatever is commendable, if there is anything of excellence and if there is anything praiseworthy-keep thinking about these things.
Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me--put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.. Philippians 4:8-9

What a man thinks so is he... Proverbs 3:27

What you are saying.. thinking... believing even.. is what you are receiving in your life.. And that is the way it is..

GOD says HIS word is truth.. HIS word is life and health to us..

So if we meditate on HIS word according to what HE says.. we should have this in our life.. and I DO.. so I just testify to what I know and what is truth..

Brother.. you are not those things.. but you do those things because you are saying what you are saying and it is your reality at the moment..

YOU are what GOD says you are.. but you will be and become what you say.. because GOD has said.. our tongues bring life or death to us..

The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit
Proverbs 18:21

An evil man is ensnared by the transgression of his lips, But the righteous will escape from trouble.
Proverbs 12:13

Matthew 12:37
"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

Proverbs 12:18Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. .... ...
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Brother I am not righteous or high up because of myself.. I am righteous and high up.. as in seated in heavenly places because of JESUS.. I am the righteousness of GOD through CHRIST JESUS..

We are forgiven because of JESUS..

We have peace because of JESUS..

We are healed because of JESUS...

We are righteous.. or made right with GOD because of JESUS..

It is not me.. at all.. I sin just like everyone else.. I fail to say the right things just like everyone else..

Only difference is.. I am believing what GOD says and I therefore receive from HIM all that HE says..

That is the only difference.. I am learning so much even just tonight I listened to the teaching from Joseph Prince.. and I have learnt something new..

I have changed alot even since I first met you.. and I have a WOF icon.. but I am probably not so much WOF as I once was.. but leave it there because I am often too busy to change it.. I just believe GOD and HIS WORD and I think about.. read it.. pray it.. study it.. listen too it.. and it is changing me.. It doesn't all come overnight.. I mean we have it all given to us when we are born again.. but the understanding takes time to grasp.. we continue to work out our salvation and grow every day..
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Old 1st October 2009, 09:12 AM
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I don't think you hate GOD.. I think you hate what you have learnt about HIM.. what lies have been fed to you.. what has brought you to this place.. I can understand that..

I have continued to come and spend time with you.. because I care about you and I see the struggles you have had.. I know I have failed you.. but I know JESUS never will and that is why I am here.. why I do not give up.. why if you let me.. I will never give up..

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Peacechild its not that i dont care what you say to me I do..its that you assume things about me that you have no idea about

I know the things you speak.i knew them years ago..you have alot of great things to say..alot of them are very true..amen

however what I am trying to say to you..those things you say to me and others..they seem very true and easy for you to say..because you are lookin through your eyes.and what you know

you are quite write..you are saying what God has said..thats nice..I can do..anyone can

you are quite right..believing..using your mouth for good..thats right

however you dont have the full picture at hand..i dont..you dont..only God does

you can be free..Jesus has set us free..however not all people are free are they

even if you tell them to believe it and say it..they still arent..how can this be..they believe they are free.and walk in it.yet are not

because you are not seeing the thing God see's or what others are trying to explain.im not saying you can or should..we all cant at times

there are times..when words..even what you think you are so right on..ya..what you say has alot of truth..but wisdom tell me..if you know what im about to say..

I have been to councelling...sermons..sermnirs..and yet here i am..what I have learned

there are times when God has to Himself minister truth to each of us..in the spots we are hurting..

saying the written word is good..but at times..it cant do a thing..how can this be?

Jesus has set us free..yet there are people who are not free...

we all know the truth..but ther are people who do not

if you dont know the truth about something..you can be free all you want..but you wont be really free will you?

theres more to this then what you are saying

how can I know.because like you.Ive been there..were you are..speaking the word..saying im free..etc etc

there are people..so hurt and broken...in areas of their life.that no words nor teaching can fix..they can believe all they want peacechild..and speak the words of God as much as they want..and guess waht..they will not move ahead or get far

how can this be? because the pain they are in..is to much for them..oh they have given it to God..countless times.prayed etc..confessed

and yet nothing changes for them..

there are times.when the wound is so bad..they cant move forward..no matter what..who hate God..and their hatred prevents them coming to God..yet they cant

how can they make it? thats the question..people have got to learn..you cant assume anything..what works for you.does not work for others

yes..speaking the word.and saying what God has said is good..i am more then talking about who I am in God

what makes you peacechild..what do you like..do you like cats...what are you attracted too..what makes you happy..alot of things that are you..arent found in the bible

yet what if that was taken from you..you are quit right.you are what God says you are in the bible.and maybe im not finding it in there.though i have read most of the bible myself quite a bit..

do you like kittens..? what type of people are you attracted to you..what are your dreams..goals hopes

what if that was stolen from you

there is a simple way to overcome this..sure...
but at times its more complex then that

if what all you know peacechild..all you believe in..right now..your mind..how you believe about God..all the knowledge..and what you know about God.hearing Him..sensing Him..all the stuff..what if..that was a lie


how would you deal with that? if it was true..just believe for a second...if it all a lie.and people where coming to tell you the "truth" how would you feel..are you so sure?

if i said "you are free Peacechild"

do you get it yet?

things are deeper for people..sometimes peopel are hurt to bad inside..thier mind..their will is scared..broken

its good to have knowledge..but you have to know.in your heart what you speak..you may do..but if you dont have something to back it up.and have a proper view of things.it can be hard to be sure what you say is right for that the moment it is spoken

ya sure.i could be making things harder for myself

but i know what I am speaking..Ive had the time to watch others.and listen to them.and myself...

its more then hearing what is said..if you dont know in your heart something is true.you can hear it for the rest of your life and get nowhere

its best not to assume things about people..i know I do..we all do

maybe one day ill make it..maybe i wont..maybe tomorrow maybe not

consider this though..deeper things are at play.more so then you can think of..read about the mind and mental illness..OCD...think of your mind what makes it up..your feelings.your desires

if all this is broken..it can be an eye opener to how some people feel

and are trying to say to christians

I am tired of the lies..but i dont know what are the lies and the truth

im tired of feeling and desiring and hoping the things i do..beacuse it breaks my heart to wonder if they are true..i know you will not get this

but what if..your dreams and hopes.who you are.your likes and dislikes.was taken away.and things were put inside you..desires and hopes..you did not want

and was taught as if from God

apart of that would really mess ya up wouldnt it

but anyway..just consider my words..they might be garbage..or whatever

but again.dont ever say to me im a complainer or murmurer..because again..dont assume things about people

you have no idea..what others are going through.and the words you say again.can bring life or death

even the smallest of things..can be the biggest of mistakes
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Brother I cannot answer you.. but I stand firm.. on the ground of your soul, spirit and body and all that makes you you.. in faith.. and believe for your deliverance, healing and freedom through CHRIST JESUS who is LORD!
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Thinking of you... and wondering how you are.. Praying as you come to mind..
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most be someone else..because I thought I had a choice..either good or bad..doesnt seem like today i have much choices..that person sounds like they love God and want Him

funny thing is..thats not me..when God comes to mind..fear strikes me..the words I love you..are nothing more then words forced upon myself to dictate someone else's way..whatever they want..its like my body isnt my own.but you have a scripture and nice words for that too dont you.

its funny how aslong as you say I love you and smile..you can get away using people's bodies however you want..making them feel whatever you want..good or bad..whatever happened to having the abilitiy to choose..even if its bad

funny thing is..people think i want this or that.and its not even close to where my heart is..for me.God is like the Devil..inside and out..thats honest truth.i close my eyes.i see the devil..

want me to say more? why dont you trust the Devil? see how easy that goes..I gues im complaining and murmuring again.

its easy to apply a bandaid of "nice words" to a wound.but it still doesn't heal it does it..you have actually go to where it is infected or hurt and deal with it..

can you actually for once think that maybe some people are hurt badly enough to not even think of going back to God becaues of the pain they would feel..i know your words.i know im "free" and healed..i know that

but at times thats not enough is it..


Look.ill put it plainly..how would you feel..like if the person living inside of you is more of a pain then a friend..more of a fear then anything good..if everytime you were taught or heard from Him..it brought more sorrow then good..if the bible brought misery instead of joy....I cant even imagine hearing from God or THe Spirit..because i know it wouldnt be good..sure I would feel "good" but i would feel thats goodness forced on me so whatever is spoken to me is considered good and true..yet inside I am crying because its not me and hurting me badly

i dont even want to consider hearing..you know what..call me a complainer and murmuring..fine....but atleast im honest..want to know the Truth..I cant stand the Spirit of God..from what I have learned from other Christians..because it has brought me so much pain inside me..i just want to shut my heart totally off and go back to being a heathen..because living in that hell i was back at church.i woudl rather be Satan and possessed..if it would get rid of this "sense" i have of God and the Spirit..why? because its destroying me inside..

its kind of like an oxymoron..wanting to get rid of God.knowing i have to go to God
yet the more i come here.the more i see other christians.the more i beleive you guys are worse then non believers and what you consider love.because truth be.the non believers can be more loyal and loving then us.now thats sad

but then again...i dont expect much..because alot of you are just stuck in a stereotypical way..you dont really have brains or choice..you just spit out good words..and say praise God..lol little doing aactually meeting people where they are at

but go ahead..stay stuck..be a clone or robot..not fooling anyone..ya you sound good
but i cant wait when you meet a person who is such in pain..and your words will mean nothing...and they will walk away..they will find someone who will meet them face to face..and be real with them

are you that person

or do you have scripture for me


I wish people would use their brain..sigh
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I called God a demon and the devil to his face..how does that make you feel?..and I went alittle further

am I lost yet? because im starting to think I am..
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I called God a demon and the devil to his face..how does that make you feel?..and I went alittle further

am I lost yet? because im starting to think I am..
How does that make me feel brother.. glad I am here for you..

Glad that I have never ever given up!!

Glad that I am praying for you...

Glad that you keep coming back even if I do so little for you..

Glad that you are going to come through this.. and how good will that be!!
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