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Old 10th November 2009, 04:37 PM
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I am a full-time student with a wife and kid. I don't always have the time I wish I did.

But the truth is, I've already gone for several pages about Harry Potter and witchcraft. If you won't read that or take the time to look at the passage mentioned, what would make me think you'd take the time to read a long reply? Moreover, you seem to have your mind already set: not only is Harry Potter not witchcraft, anyone who suggests otherwise is trying to control you.

I'm not here to make you feel guilty or control you; that's the duty and blessing of the Holy Spirit. I feel I've made my point clear, and even if I'm doctrinally wrong, I solidly believe I have a scriptural basis for my point of view. Other posters who disagree with me -though they disagree with me- have done the same thing. Neither point of view is "overly dramatic." Abiding by, and trying to discern His will never is! You say that I'm cherry-picking parts of the Law. You say that I'm taking scripture out of context...but you aren't even using scripture to contradict me. If you are going to question my application of scripture, do so by using scripture, not by your own words. The correction of the misuse of scripture is the correct use of scripture, not the absence of it. (1Tim 1:7) It's never asking too much to finely divide the Law. Scripture commands it (Hebrews and Timothy come to mind right now.)

I don't believe anyone here has claimed you aren't a "true christian." Again, it's not my place to say that; Christ himself will decide.

Start quoting the text or else stop trying to sound as if you have a Biblical basis for what you are espousing.
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Old 10th November 2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ewe2
If you believe your tag "He is worthy to be praised" then seek the answer from Him and His Word and don't let the opinion of others, either on or outside this forum influence you. Here are a few Scriptures to start, please seek out others on your own and allow His Holy Spirit to guide you.

2Chronicles 33:1-6
Galatians 5:19-24.
2 Chronicles reads:

Manasseh was twelve years old when he became king of Judah, and he ruled fifty-five years from Jerusalem. Manasseh disobeyed the Lord by following the disgusting customs of the nations that the Lord had forced out of Israel.

He rebuilt the local shrines that his father Hezekiah had torn down. He built alters for the god Baal and set up sacred poles for worshipping the goddess Asherah, and he faithfully worshipped the stars in the sky.

In the temple, where only the Lord was supposed to be worshipped, Manasseh built alters for pagan gods and for the stars. He placed these alters in both courtyards of the temple and even set up a stone image of a foreign god.

Manasseh practiced magic and witchcraft; he asked fortunetellers for advice and sacrificed his own sons in the Hinnom Valley. He did many other sinful things, and made the Lord very angry.
While in Galatians, Paul says:

People's desires make them give in to immoral ways, filthy thoughts, and shameful deeds. They worship idols, practice witchcraft, hate others, and are hard to get along with. People become jealous, angry, and selfish. They not only argue and cause trouble, but they are envious. They get drunk, carry on at wild parties, and do other evil things as well. I told you before, and I am telling you again: No one who does these things will share in the blessings of God's kingdom.


Along with the Deuteronomy and Leviticus passages which clearly outlaw witchcraft, there is no debate that magic and witchcraft are evil. Was witchcraft or magic even possible in the OT days? Doesn't matter; it doesn't matter if it's as illusionary today as it was in the past. The command is not "don't practice it if it's real," the command is "don't practice it."

A fictionalized narrative of murder is still a narrative about murder. The same goes for witchcraft. Fake or real, the issue is the internal effect it has on someone.

Reread the posts in this thread. There's no way in my mind that Harry Potter isn't witchcraft.
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Originally Posted by Tom619 View Post
Hi guys,
I've been reading Harry Potter a lot, and I am wondering, is this classified as Witchcraft, which as a result, is a sin and is demonic?
Yes, but if that's what you want to read. Because reading and watching things can stick with your mind, we have to be careful in what we feed our spirit. I personally couldn't get down with Harry Potter saved or not saved so I wasn't interested from the get go, same with this twlight thing. Just remember one thing and I have to remember this when I watch Charmed that we may be feeding our flesh when we watch or read stuff like this. Pray about it, ask God about it and how you feel, also ask him to convict your heart if it is indeed against him. He will let you know. Be bless and be careful.
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