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Where are Asians in the Table of Nations

It seems absurd that most American authored Bible commentaries place Asians together with Africans as the children of Ham - the facial features are too distinct and too far.

I read that Whites and Asians share lots of genetic characteristics though, so I'm wondering if they came from Japheth. Also, there are lots of East Asians who look quite White.

No racism meant. Just curious.
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It seems absurd that most American authored Bible commentaries place Asians together with Africans as the children of Ham - the facial features are too distinct and too far.

I read that Whites and Asians share lots of genetic characteristics though, so I'm wondering if they came from Japheth. Also, there are lots of East Asians who look quite White.

No racism meant. Just curious.
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Old 26th September 2009, 12:23 PM
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I can tell you what genetics says; connecting that with Genesis is not a job I'll undertake. Europeans and Asians are indeed more closely related genetically than either is to Africans. All non-African populations look like they carry a subset of African genetic variation, which gives strong support to the notion that they arose out of a migration out of Africa (~60,000 years ago). Europeans and East Asians (especially the latter) both show signs of having been through population bottlenecks, periods of smaller population size, with one bottleneck being shared (probably when they were a single population, around the time they left Africa); most African populations do not.
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Maybe I am missing something, but I have never read a Bible commentary which had anything like a "Table of Nations" in it. However, I tend to ignore most Bible commentaries as a rule. That just gives me another reason to ignore them.
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When Abrahamic divisions become part of the equation, this opens the door to all sorts of strange possibilities. Like, for example, the Japanese being the lost 10 tribes of Israel...

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Asian people or Asiatic people is a demonym for people from Asia. However, the use of the term varies by country and person, often referring to people from a particular region or subregion of Asia. Though it may be based on residence, it is also often considered a race or an ethnicity.

In North America, the term refers most commonly to people of predominantly East Asian and Southeast Asian ancestry; however, in the United Kingdom and Anglophone Africa, the term refers most commonly to South Asians. In other countries, the term is applied in a wider sense to all people from Asia or from a number of its regions. In the United States, however, Middle Eastern and Central Asian people are usually not considered "Asian."



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Last I checked the idea that the ethnicities of the world, including the idea that black people were the descendants of cursed Ham had been discarded as an embarrassing and baseless teaching that was just used to justify slavery and racism.
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