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Old 28th September 2009, 09:38 AM
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So... whats makes you so sure that the "NWO" or the Beast of revelation is upon us NOW, considering people have been saying the same thing for the past 2000 years and always been wrong?
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Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII View Post
So... whats makes you so sure that the "NWO" or the Beast of revelation is upon us NOW, considering people have been saying the same thing for the past 2000 years and always been wrong?
This beast was "set up" long ago. The people have been right. The NWO won't just suddenly pop up and begin operating. Satan controls this world through four hidden dynasties....politics, finance, education and religion. How are all four doing? They aren't so "hidden" anymore.
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Originally Posted by 1whirlwind View Post
This beast was "set up" long ago. The people have been right. The NWO won't just suddenly pop up and begin operating. Satan controls this world through four hidden dynasties....politics, finance, education and religion. How are all four doing? They aren't so "hidden" anymore.
4 hidden dynasties? And your evidence for this is...?
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Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII View Post
4 hidden dynasties? And your evidence for this is...?

Biblically "horns" represent power or powers. In Zechariah we see...
Zechariah 1:18-20 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns. And I said unto the angel that talked with me, "What be these?" And he answered me, "These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem." And the LORD shewed me four carpenters.

1:21 Then said I, "What come these to do?" And he spake, saying, "These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it."
The four ways this world is controlled by Satan is through the four mentioned powers....politics, education, finance and religion.
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Old 28th September 2009, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1whirlwind View Post
Biblically "horns" represent power or powers. In Zechariah we see...
Zechariah 1:18-20 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns. And I said unto the angel that talked with me, "What be these?" And he answered me, "These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem." And the LORD shewed me four carpenters.

1:21 Then said I, "What come these to do?" And he spake, saying, "These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it."
The four ways this world is controlled by Satan is through the four mentioned powers....politics, education, finance and religion.
O...K...

Um... so, I didn't actually see any mention of 4 hidden dynasties there.
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Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII View Post
O...K...

Um... so, I didn't actually see any mention of 4 hidden dynasties there.

Sorry...I meant previously mentioned...by me. The four horns are powers, means of control...dynasties by which the world falls under his power. As you are a conservative I know you know the means with which governments control the population...."so that no man did lift up his head." Through politics, finance, education and...religion.
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it is not yet in the final stage for sure, but it is well under way...

soon enough this socialism movement will become world wide...
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Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII View Post
So... whats makes you so sure that the "NWO" or the Beast of revelation is upon us NOW, considering people have been saying the same thing for the past 2000 years and always been wrong?
Reminds me of this picture and movie I saved awhile back.......I tried to find one of the Pope [or Obama] instead of Bush but didn't have much luck

Originally Posted by RND Obviously, he was given permission by the church to answer.....

The original letter was addressed to the Pope, at the Vatican. The response came from someone else. Obviously, the order traveled down hill.

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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus View Post
Reminds me of this picture and movie I saved awhile back.......I tried to find one of the Pope [or Obama] instead of Bush but didn't have much luck


Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
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hahaha, rofl, this is great, you people never cease to amaze....lol
Ok, well, would you like to tell me why the antichrist being an alien is such a terrible interpretation? In the opening paragraph, I pointed out how power, signs, and lying wonders can only mean one thing in our day and age: advanced technology. Jesus Christ and Paul (Mt. 24:24, 2 Th. 2) both point to these great signs and wonders as a characteristic of the antichrist. There is no way possible that these are literally supernatural powers, therefore, the only thing that they could be is advanced technology.

Not to mention that the very word "antichrist" means "instead of Christ" or "against Christ" (possibly a mixture of both). In order for someone to impersonate Christ, there would have to be a false coming, because, as I pointed out, everyone knows that Christ's coming is from the heavens.

As some on this thread have already pointed out (and I did in my OP), Ezekiel chapter 1 can be MISINTERPRETED very easily as Ezekiel seeing God riding around in a UFO (it is not this at all). Other events in the Bible can also very easily be misread into being extraterrestrial (Elijah being caught up in a "chariot of fire", God descending on Mt. Sinai and speaking with Moses face to face, etc.). Were an alien to ever come to earth with advanced technology, he would probably be able to very successfully claim that these events were his doing, and it would all make total and complete sense to the modern scientists and world at large. It is not a conspiracy theory, it is a perfectly reasonable assumption.

Not to mention, I have never said that I BELIEVED that this would happen, only that it is a POSSIBILITY. I think that this is a scenario which all should keep in mind.
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