The Antichrist: An Alien?

gracechick · #21 27th September 2009, 01:02 PM

Why are u saying we will cross the line in 2012?

1whirlwind · #22 27th September 2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by chingchang

Wow. Very impressed with the OP and with 1whirlwind's insights. When though? I feel like this is coming really soon...but I don't have anything to back that up. I've spent a lot of time looking into the new age that is upon us. We are transitioning into it now and will cross the line in late 2012. It seems very obvious that a NWO is being established now and it might be ready for a world-leader by 2012. Perhaps this new world leader will be the final AC? How this all fits together nicely with Biblical prophecy is not totally clear to me now...but I'm very interested. One thing is for sure...a select group has been given advance knowlege of these happenings and is preparing the earth for these events. We have been and are being conditioned to accept these things and they are aquiring the necessary force and technology to suppress any uprisings.

All I can do is hope in the eventual return of Yeshua to establish a righteous earthly kingdom based on love. I think that is something we all desire...but it seems so far away...

CC

We are being conditioned and I agree...the NWO seems very close. Continue to be a watchman but know...the fake comes first pretending to be Christ. I don't think this time is far away at all.

get it right · #23 27th September 2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by 1whirlwind

To us...amber is a fossil tree resin. To us...color means it's color. That is not what it means in Hebrew. So, when we read [Ezekiel 1:4] it should be understood as...."a great cloud..out of the midst thereof as the colour (outward appearance) of amber (bronze metal.) "
Amber # 2830 ~ Chashmal, bronze or polished spectrum metal.

Colour #5869 ~ Ayin, outward appearance (and many other definitions as well.)

If it's the color of amber or bronze it matters not.

Bronze is heavy and has a low melting point, not space vehicle material.
The centre of a fire does have a amber-bronze color.

Ezekiel 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

I don't see it as a space vehicle anyway.

1whirlwind · #24 27th September 2009, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by get it right

If it's the color of amber or bronze it matters not.

Bronze is heavy and has a low melting point, not space vehicle material.
The centre of a fire does have a amber-bronze color.

Ezekiel 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

I don't see it as a space vehicle anyway.

Perhaps some are from another dimension and others from "under the earth?"

Regardless...Biblically they are something quite different than what we see.

11 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. (12) And Elisha saw it, and he cried, "My father, my father, the chariot of Israel and the horsemen thereof." And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

Ave Maria · #25 27th September 2009, 08:00 PM

No, the anti-Christ will be a human with supernatural powers given to him by Satan.

get it right · #26 27th September 2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Protestant Girl 02

No, the anti-Christ will be a human with supernatural powers given to him by Satan.

Yes exactly, I believe he is given those powere at about the same time that he declares himself to be God.

B1inHim · #27 28th September 2009, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Protestant Girl 02

No, the anti-Christ will be a human with supernatural powers given to him by Satan.

This is very true... the powers have always been his... it is not until his time that he produces though

zeke37 · #28 28th September 2009, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Protestant Girl 02

No, the anti-Christ will be a human with supernatural powers given to him by Satan.

from another thread...

2Thes2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

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Ez28:11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25Behold, I have told you before.
26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

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Rev12:7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

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Rev9:1And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
12One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

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Rev12:12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

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Rev13:11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

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2Cor11:1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

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Mat24: 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

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13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

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Rev17:8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

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Rev20:1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

EnemyPartyII · #29 28th September 2009, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by 1whirlwind

We are being conditioned and I agree...the NWO seems very close. Continue to be a watchman but know...the fake comes first pretending to be Christ. I don't think this time is far away at all.

In what possible way is the "NWO" (I assume you mean evil one world government) "very close"?

1whirlwind · #30 28th September 2009, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by EnemyPartyII

In what possible way is the "NWO" (I assume you mean evil one world government) "very close"?

They are already in operation. It/They are the first beast of Revelation and they were "set up" long ago.

Malachi 3:15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Ten (rulers/kings/presidents) over seven (heads/continents/nations) rise from the sand of the sea (people, multitudes, masses).

13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and is feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion; and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat and great authority.

The leopard (China), the feet of a bear (Russia), the mouth of a lion (America) and it is the dragon/serpent/Satan that gives this beast it's great authority.

13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered after the beast.

Could the deadly wound be this current financial crisis?

13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and the worshipped the beast, saying, "Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

One can't "make war" with oneself.

13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies: and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

The beast, one world power, was "set up" long ago. He, Satan, is prince of this world now. Who knows when the "forty and two months" will begin...if it hasn't already. There won't be an announcement.