I'm a strong believer in UFO's and believe they are part of Satan's realm but...the wicked that shall be revealed are people. The tares. Those that work now to promote Satan's agenda...part of the first beast of Revelation, the world-wide system. They are the "workings of Satan."
Wouldn't suprise me if ufo's are real, because of a personal experience, but they are of the devil and fallen angels, I agree with.
Satan himself is the one that comes after his own workings and he comes pretending to be Jesus, "with all power and signs and lying wonders."
The bible tells us that it's the beast that comes after the workings of satan. satan dosn't come after the workings of satan, dosn't make sense.
God allows him the power to look and act like the Savior. All the signs Christ told us to watch for are duplicated by him...lying wonders! Will UFO's be part of this? I think so. I believe they are the biblical "clouds."
Christ will not be coming in a ufo, but in literal clouds, the same way as He ascended 2000 years ago, according to the angels who said this to the apostles who were looking up as He disappeared into the clouds and as recorded in the bible.
Also from the bible, "God makes clouds His chariot".
Christ will not be coming in a ufo, but in literal clouds, the same way as He ascended 2000 years ago, according to the angels who said this to the apostles who were looking up as He disappeared into the clouds and as recorded in the bible. Also from the bible, "God makes clouds His chariot".
Ezekiel 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Amber is...."bronze or polished metal." God's throne was in a polished metal vehicle and that vehicle was surrounded by clouds. Those clouds are His chariots!
Ezekiel 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Amber is...."bronze or polished metal." God's throne was in a polished metal vehicle and that vehicle was surrounded by clouds. Those clouds are His chariots!
Out of the midst of the fire was the color amber, not amber itself.
and amber is a fossil tree resin, and not a metal.
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Jimmy DeYoung told everyone on the Paul Ankerberg show that the "locusts" of the end times will be an alien invasion. I laughed at that then turned the channel...and lost all respect for DeYoung.
I'm not sure what to make of this thread.
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Jimmy DeYoung told everyone on the Paul Ankerberg show that the "locusts" of the end times will be an alien invasion. I laughed at that then turned the channel...and lost all respect for DeYoung.
I'm not sure what to make of this thread.
Just before Christ comes on the clouds to destroy all the evil, the anti-christ, devil, and false prophet convince the armies of the world to gather to one place to fight against Christ as he comes on the clouds. Now, think about that. The devil is going to convince the nations of the world to gather to battle against an alleged enemy coming from the sky. (Revelation 16, Revelation 19)
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Originally Posted by trialbyfire
Just before Christ comes on the clouds to destroy all the evil, the anti-christ, devil, and false prophet convince the armies of the world to gather to one place to fight against Christ as he comes on the clouds. Now, think about that. The devil is going to convince the nations of the world to gather to battle against an alleged enemy coming from the sky. (Revelation 16, Revelation 19)
I have.
I'm amillenial and that includes not believing in all of that in a literal sense. I am also a non-futurist...I am not a preterist but I also don't believe John was writing to the 21st century audience at all in this book. I also believe that John wrote this book before the year 70 AD. I'm an enigma I guess.
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I'm amillenial and that includes not believing in all of that in a literal sense. I am also a non-futurist...I am not a preterist but I also don't believe John was writing to the 21st century audience at all in this book. I also believe that John wrote this book before the year 70 AD. I'm an enigma I guess.
I am generally referred to as that on CF. I am a Preterist.....
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I can't quote you yet due to the links in your signature it seems.
I don't/can't take Apocalyptic writings as totally literal like the evangelical church in the western world seems to do today.(the majority that is, especially here in the States.)
I have studied ancient literature in university(LOTS of apoclyptic writings from around the world spectrum) and honestly I use the skills I learned in my studies there and that does include the same apocalyptic style writing of the bible....it cannot all be taken in the hyper-literal sense.
People nowadays do take said literature literally.
Is this wrong? I say no it is not wrong. Apocalyptic writing is very very hard to get a hold of to begin with.
I will say that the Holy Spirit has yet to convict me for my own viewpoint on this subject. So I'm good with it.
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Out of the midst of the fire was the color amber, not amber itself. and amber is a fossil tree resin, and not a metal.
To us...amber is a fossil tree resin. To us...color means it's color. That is not what it means in Hebrew. So, when we read [Ezekiel 1:4] it should be understood as...."a great cloud..out of the midst thereof as the colour (outward appearance) of amber (bronze metal.) "
Amber # 2830 ~ Chashmal, bronze or polished spectrum metal.
Colour #5869 ~ Ayin, outward appearance (and many other definitions as well.)
To us...amber is a fossil tree resin. To us...color means it's color. That is not what it means in Hebrew. So, when we read [Ezekiel 1:4] it should be understood as...."a great cloud..out of the midst thereof as the colour (outward appearance) of amber (bronze metal.) "
Amber # 2830 ~ Chashmal, bronze or polished spectrum metal.
Colour #5869 ~ Ayin, outward appearance (and many other definitions as well.)
Wow. Very impressed with the OP and with 1whirlwind's insights. When though? I feel like this is coming really soon...but I don't have anything to back that up. I've spent a lot of time looking into the new age that is upon us. We are transitioning into it now and will cross the line in late 2012. It seems very obvious that a NWO is being established now and it might be ready for a world-leader by 2012. Perhaps this new world leader will be the final AC? How this all fits together nicely with Biblical prophecy is not totally clear to me now...but I'm very interested. One thing is for sure...a select group has been given advance knowlege of these happenings and is preparing the earth for these events. We have been and are being conditioned to accept these things and they are aquiring the necessary force and technology to suppress any uprisings.
All I can do is hope in the eventual return of Yeshua to establish a righteous earthly kingdom based on love. I think that is something we all desire...but it seems so far away...
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