Don't take that man's scribblings with a mere grain of salt. Better use a SHOVEL.
Sure, I enjoyed "Angels and Demons" and "The Da Vinci Code" as the popcorn novels they were, and derived some entertainment from them. Conspiracy theories are intriguing as a fiction, but really become ridiculous as soon as you take them seriously. The research behind Brown's previous novels was extremely poor, so I don't expect his newest "astonishing revelations" to be any different. Just a bunch of third-rate convolutions based on second-rate conspiracy theories.
Of course, the Masons have their own mythological conspiracy theories, trying to trace their existence to the Knights Templar, the architects of Solomon's temple, and/or Egyptian master builders unraveling the secrets of the cosmos.
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the sky becomes filthy,
the earth becomes depleted,
the equilibrium crumbles,
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I really don't know how to answer it other than that.
Maybe this:
NO.
Oh come on Sidhe... tell us what you really think?
lol
Ok guys, I'm going to take a HUGE risk here, i mean HUGE, by taking this risk I may be taken out by the higher powers in the world.
Dan Brown operates by manipulating peoples curiosity.
He choose "secret" groups within religious orders and then exploits peoples ignorance of those groups for his own uses.
Does this make him a bad man? I wouldn't say so, I would say tho that people who watch his movies or read his books and take them as gospel without researching any of the ideas he brings up are "special people".
Simply put, Dan Brown chooses a subject that was already considered slightly controversial, "secret religious society" or "religion vs science" and exploits it, making it seem much more fantastic than it really is.
He over hypes these subjects hoping that people will talk about them. And talk about his books.
So that he can make movies... and start the whole process over again.
Honestly if you want to know what the Masons believe go ask them. Most of them are nice older men they will tell you.
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Simply put, Dan Brown chooses a subject that was already considered slightly controversial, "secret religious society" or "religion vs science" and exploits it, making it seem much more fantastic than it really is.
Pretty much. He picks a few facts and fits them into his story to make it sound more real. It says "novel" right on the covers, which by definition, makes them fiction.
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Yes. This is mentioned in the book. The man that you're talking about thanks Peter Solomon, one of the main characters, for his "invitation" to the 33rd Degree.
Okay, I stand corrected. My son hasn't given the book back yetso I hadn't picked up on that.
Originally Posted by Wicked Willow
Of course, the Masons have their own mythological conspiracy theories, trying to trace their existence to the Knights Templar, the architects of Solomon's temple, and/or Egyptian master builders unraveling the secrets of the cosmos.
Most Masonic historians won't try to go there these days, ever since Robert Gould's history debunked early origin theories. It's generally agreed that it developed sometime in the late medieval era, probably through the trade guilds.
But I guess a bunch of stoneworkers plying their trade would have made for a pretty dull movie.
And anyway, since everybody's going to be looking at us suspiciously anyway, why not go for it, and act like we're up to something?
Originally Posted by TerranceL
Honestly if you want to know what the Masons believe go ask them. Most of them are nice older men they will tell you.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
But hey, you can't have everything, huh? At least I'm nice.
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The reason that conspiracy theories spread is that they make the world a far more planned place than it actually is. Want to know why politicians do stupid things? It's the ILLUMINATI!
No, it can't just be voters unwisely voting for stupid candidates....that would be too unplanned. Everything must happen for a specific reason planned by somebody. (No, wait! It's the Illuminati who rig elections to put stupid people into office. Yes, it's all so clear now!)
Unfortunately, there is a market for conspiracy theories because there is a sizable portion of the population who have leanings towards paranoid personality disorder. Anyone can write a conspiracy book. It doesn't even have to be well-researched. Whoever bothers to check up on the details? The conspiracy book is taken to be the authority.
How brave these writers must be to take on such sinister organizations. They must disappear mysteriously in the night after publication. No, wait. They don't. But that's so clever of those organizations, to discredit conspiracy theorists by not retaliating! It's all so clear now!
I have little doubt that the Freemasons are a harmless group of people who have a few rituals, ideals, and beliefs, but who are primarily about making business contacts, drinking booze, and escaping from their wives for the evening. They have no more secrets than anybody else.
Of course, that's just what you'd expect someone who controls half of the planet to say.
__________________ When man interferes with the Tao,
the sky becomes filthy,
the earth becomes depleted,
the equilibrium crumbles,
creatures become extinct.
--Lao-tzu, Tao Te Ching
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You can tell Alan Moore is a great magician because his beard looks like it may contain living things.
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I wasn't aware that Alan Moore had an opinion about conspiracy theories, but what he says towards the end of the video about chaos being scarier than conspiracy is pretty much my point. People who have leanings toward paranoid personality disorder are especially troubled by chaos, and will go to heroic efforts to make everything simple and crystal clear, even when reality is too complex for this.
You can tell Alan Moore is a great magician because his beard looks like it may contain living things.
He does seem to have the wooly look of a mystic about him.
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so I hadn't picked up on that.
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