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Old 21st September 2009, 04:26 AM
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Why are so many Protestants typically attracted more to the Orthodox Church?

Hi everyone. Why are Protestants typically more attracted to the Orthodox Church than they are to the Catholic Church?
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I read in someone's signature once, "to learn about Church History is to cease being a protestant."

I think an honest reading of Church History will also show that there was originally a conciliar character to the 5 patriarchs, and that over a period of time, one of those patriarchs began changing, and assuming for himself a universal jurisdiction that was novel and unprecedented. Throughout the centuries, the teachings of this Roman patriarchate has continued to change, causing the great schism, causing the protestant reformation, and allowing numerous unchristian atrocities to be performed under the indirect authority of this patriarch/pope.

I think that the protestants who look at this history objectively, will naturally come to the conclusion that the Orthodox Church is the True Church, which holds to the True Faith, unchanged, of the Apostles.
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Old 21st September 2009, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Protoevangel View Post
I read in someone's signature once, "to learn about Church History is to cease being a protestant."

I think an honest reading of Church History will also show that there was originally a conciliar character to the 5 patriarchs, and that over a period of time, one of those patriarchs began changing, and assuming for himself a universal jurisdiction that was novel and unprecedented. Throughout the centuries, the teachings of this Roman patriarchate has continued to change, causing the great schism, causing the protestant reformation, and allowing numerous unchristian atrocities to be performed under the indirect authority of this patriarch/pope.

I think that the protestants who look at this history objectively, will naturally come to the conclusion that the Orthodox Church is the True Church, which holds to the True Faith, unchanged, of the Apostles.
Ah ok. Can you provide me with some more websites to look in to the Eastern Orthodox Church with?
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orthodoxinfo.com is a good one.
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I think that a lot are attracted by the fact that it is True Christianity. most Protestant denominations are some kind of attempt to either return to the original way of Christianity or to purify whatever Church they used to be of excessiveness. typically when they really and, as Proto said, honestly look back at what Christianity has always been, they find that the True Church has been there all along.
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Ah ok. Can you provide me with some more websites to look in to the Eastern Orthodox Church with?
Not knowing exactly what you are looking for, I can offer you some general info:

OCA - About Orthodox Christianity
Introduction to Orthodox Christianity - OrthodoxWiki
Introduction — Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
The Orthodox Church: An Introduction
OCA - Questions and Answers About Orthodoxy

Larger sources (online books)
The Orthodox Church (Part 1, History) by Bishop Kallistos Ware (Highly recommended)
The Orthodox Church (Part 2, Faith and Worship) by Bishop Kallistos Ware (Highly recommended)
The Orthodox Church - By Fr. Sergius Bulgakov (most of a book)
The History of the Orthodox Church (most of another book)
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another book that I would recommend is Becoming Orthodox by Fr Peter Gillquist. he was a former evangelical who converted to Orthodoxy along with many other evagelical Christians.
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Thank you! Those links should be very helpful.
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Because we are searching for authentic Christianity, but we know we can never go back to where we came from! (i.e. The Roman Church)
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