We now know that the following claims are false (or so outrageous as to need no rebuttal (see #31, 36 and 37)):
1. That Ellen G. White was a plagiarist.
2. That Ellen G. White plagiarized by paraphrasing.
3. That Ellen G. White was a millionaire.
4. That Ellen G. White was accumulating property while telling everyone else not to.
5. That Fannie Bolton wrote Steps to Christ.
6. That Ellen G. White engaged in "wholesale plagiarism" of Conybeare and Howson.
7. That Ellen G. White was threatened with a lawsuit over her alleged plagiarism.
8. That Ellen G. White took a dozen servants with her to Australia.
9. That Ellen G. White plagiarized 80-90% ("and possibly more" according to some web sites).
10. That Ellen G. White predicted the San Francisco earthquake after it happened.
11. That Ellen G. White said only vegetarians will be saved.
12. That Ellen G. White said only sabbatarians will be saved.
13. That the Library of Congress wouldn't allow Ellen G. White's book The Great Controversy into the library because of the plagiarisms involved.
14. That an entire chapter of Sketches from the Life of Paul was "taken entirely" from a sermon by Melvill.
15. That the claim that "there is no point in the entire chapter that had not already come to Mevill before" Ellen G. White.
16. That Ellen G. White saw people on Jupiter.
17. That Ellen G. White made repeated claims that Jesus was coming in specific years.
18. That Ellen G. White asked Washburn and Crisler to undertake a research of the Life of Christ and then appropriated it and published it as Desire of Ages.
19. That Ellen G. White contradicted Scripture (53, or 75, or "much more than 75") times.
20. That Ellen G. White contradicted herself.
21. That Ellen G. White predicted that England would enter into the American Civil War.
22. That Ellen G. White copied her first vision from Foy; out of 6 examples listed that Foy said the claimant got one right.
23. or, did she copy it from Joseph Smith? Even the Mormon scholars who have looked at it don't believe it.
24. That Ellen G. White predicted that someone would be healed (and yet he died).
25. That SDA's "worship" Ellen G. White.
26. That Dr. Veltman proved Ellen G. White plagiarized.
27. That Ellen G. White's visions were the result of a head injury during childhood.
28. That Ellen G. White was a follower of Joseph Smith.
29. That Ellen G. White wrote that "The Civil War is a sign that Jesus is about to return."
30. That Ellen G. White called Jesus "Michael the Archangel" (Desire of Ages pp. 99, 379; Spiritual Gifts Vol. 1, p. 158; Prophets & Kings p. 572)
1) There's no reference to Michael the archangel in DA on page 379.
2) There's no equation between Christ & Michael in Spiritual Gifts Vol. 1, p. 158 or Prophets & Kings p. 572.
31. "Not to mention the Mason Illuminati influence on EGW toilet paper teachings!!"
32. “But from her own mouth, she was a racist.”
33. Alleged quote from EGW: {EGW: Lazarus, leads the donkey at the triumphal entry into Jerusalem. The healed dumb shouted the loudest, healed blind led the way and the healed cripples broke the most branches. "} Can’t be found.
34. “Seeing this, in the light of her calling Him "Michael the Archangel" (Desire of Ages pp. 99, 379; Spiritual Gifts Vol. 1, p. 158; Prophets & Kings p. 572)” Unfortunately for the critic there was no mention of Michael in DA page 379, or in 1 SG 158, and there was no equation of Jesus with Michael in PK, 572.
35. Another alleged material from EGW: {EGW: THE SISTER OF MARTHA AND LAZARUS, WAS MARY MAGDALENE, AND SHE WAS LED INTO SIN BY SIMON. DA, p. 566,568.} She doesn’t.
36. “SHE WAS AN OCCULTIST FACT!”
37. “SHE WAS INVOLVED IN THE OCCULT THE ILLUMINATI!”
38. EGW copied her health ideas from Jackson. (No examples were given, despite repeated requests and then when pressed further said that they were in the book by Numbers—not there either.)
39. That Ellen G. White copied other people's ideas. Can’t prove that words were copied and yet they can prove that ideas were?!?
40. That Ellen G. White didn't believe in the Trinity, or did she? In either case, critics condemn her for either position.
41. One critic accused her of necromancy (communicating with the dead) because she said that she had talked with Enoch. I pointed out to him that according to Scripture Enoch never died.
You can prove that some of the above claims are false with as little as 5 minutes of work. The critics, however, will never spend that 5 minutes and will never admit that any of the above are false (even if they never made the claims themselves!).
__________________ Because the critics have not studied any subject in any sort of depth (at least 3,000 pages), they quite literally do not know how little they know. In fact, they don't even know that they don't know.
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When they are wrong on the simple, why should you listen to them on the more complex?
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One rule you can always count on: never, ever trust the critics on anything. They've proven that they cannot, and will not, tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I now have 99 authors in my plagiarism study. The critics still have zero.
__________________ Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'? "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have." ... ThomasJefferson
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. ~ VOLTAIRE "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" -Pascal When a man or woman is honestly mistaken and hears the truth, they will either quit being mistaken, or they will cease to be honest. "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
Mrs. White also says of pork that it is nourishing and strengthening food:Testimonies, Volume 1, p.206
__________________ Because the critics have not studied any subject in any sort of depth (at least 3,000 pages), they quite literally do not know how little they know. In fact, they don't even know that they don't know.
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When they are wrong on the simple, why should you listen to them on the more complex?
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One rule you can always count on: never, ever trust the critics on anything. They've proven that they cannot, and will not, tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I now have 99 authors in my plagiarism study. The critics still have zero.
"What prophetess would say that God made a mistake, just to cover her own errors and failed prophecies?"
They keep lying right along!
__________________ Because the critics have not studied any subject in any sort of depth (at least 3,000 pages), they quite literally do not know how little they know. In fact, they don't even know that they don't know.
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When they are wrong on the simple, why should you listen to them on the more complex?
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One rule you can always count on: never, ever trust the critics on anything. They've proven that they cannot, and will not, tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I now have 99 authors in my plagiarism study. The critics still have zero.
44. A Solemn Appeal (1870), p. 173 "Let's see now, youth are worthles, and Christians are animals. What a wonderful outlook on humanity!"
Quote doesn't exist.
__________________ Because the critics have not studied any subject in any sort of depth (at least 3,000 pages), they quite literally do not know how little they know. In fact, they don't even know that they don't know.
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When they are wrong on the simple, why should you listen to them on the more complex?
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One rule you can always count on: never, ever trust the critics on anything. They've proven that they cannot, and will not, tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I now have 99 authors in my plagiarism study. The critics still have zero.
"What prophetess would say that God made a mistake, just to cover her own errors and failed prophecies?"
They keep lying right along!
Yeah--I saw this one being discussed on this board too--how sad.
__________________ Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'? "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have." ... ThomasJefferson
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. ~ VOLTAIRE "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" -Pascal When a man or woman is honestly mistaken and hears the truth, they will either quit being mistaken, or they will cease to be honest. "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
45. "even some SDA researchers have concluded that she offered very little that was new" (10/10/2009)
__________________ Because the critics have not studied any subject in any sort of depth (at least 3,000 pages), they quite literally do not know how little they know. In fact, they don't even know that they don't know.
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When they are wrong on the simple, why should you listen to them on the more complex?
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One rule you can always count on: never, ever trust the critics on anything. They've proven that they cannot, and will not, tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I now have 99 authors in my plagiarism study. The critics still have zero.
46. "She was trying to point you all toward christ instead you worship her;" (10/15/2009)
__________________ Because the critics have not studied any subject in any sort of depth (at least 3,000 pages), they quite literally do not know how little they know. In fact, they don't even know that they don't know.
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When they are wrong on the simple, why should you listen to them on the more complex?
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One rule you can always count on: never, ever trust the critics on anything. They've proven that they cannot, and will not, tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I now have 99 authors in my plagiarism study. The critics still have zero.
#47. She copied The Great Controversy from JN Andrews. (10/17/2009)
48. "Ellen G. White copied extensively from this book (Wylie's History of Protestantism) and claimed it was a revelation from God!" (10/17/2009)
Two in one day! Same person, no less!
__________________ Because the critics have not studied any subject in any sort of depth (at least 3,000 pages), they quite literally do not know how little they know. In fact, they don't even know that they don't know.
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When they are wrong on the simple, why should you listen to them on the more complex?
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One rule you can always count on: never, ever trust the critics on anything. They've proven that they cannot, and will not, tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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I now have 99 authors in my plagiarism study. The critics still have zero.
Last edited by djconklin; 17th October 2009 at 07:31 PM.
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