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21st September 2009, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Alunyel  Actually, to immortally live
would be the most insufferable torture I could ever think of.
I don't think you quite grasp how long you'd be living for.
Heaven or hell, wouldn't matter, you'd be stuck there forever.
"I'd rather die than go to Heaven."
depends.
For instance, notice you used descriptors like "insufferable, torture, stuck, hell, & die" for your current existence.
In that case, it's certainly understandable why you'd want that to end. And the sooner the better, for sure.
FULL-stop. No doubt about it.
------------- > Flat-lined, as per the medical-professions.
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Supposing an entirely-different REALITY is possible, where Freedom to choose... continues... -
See, in this scenario, would 10+ eternities  be a fine Starting-point for all the Learnings you may yet want to gain...
For example,
as insatiably-curious  as I, do you?? also continue daily asking 100 new  questions.
And mind you, we are friends with many Individually-unique people/scientists,
sharing this & many other wonderful qualities of God's successful children. When you pay close-attention to such,
you Notice all kinds of skills, like positive, constructive empowering BELIEFS, for anyone's life enrichment continuously...
So you see, to Peacefully immortally live & play in this kind of Heaven is simply BLISS 
And the best-part God invites you to Come, and play... eternally along with us too! Heaven!! 
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21st September 2009, 09:45 AM
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Reps: 38,330,407,492,018 (power: 38,330,407,495) | | Originally Posted by sk8Joyful And the best-part God invites you to Come, and Play... eternally along with us too!
So you want us all to come and live in your dream world? |
21st September 2009, 11:06 AM
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Reps: 38,672,220,164,744,672 (power: 38,672,220,164,753) | | Originally Posted by Alunyel Actually, to immortally live would be the most insufferable torture I could ever think of.
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Heaven or hell, wouldn't matter, you'd be stuck there forever.
"I'd rather die than go to Heaven."
Remember that this is religion, i.e. you're allowed to use your imagination. What if it's not possible to become bored or tired of (after)life in Heaven? What if one will be eternally happy and fullfilled? That's not torture, that's the ultimate dream.
You, probably unintentionally, give the impression that you reject christianity due to wishful thinking.
Personally my lack of belief has to do with lack of evidence.
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21st September 2009, 11:18 AM
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If I were ever to need religion I would not pick Christianity because it seems to be the most evil and unforgiving out of all of them.
In a hundred years time Islam will be the dominant religion throughout the world and Christianity will be confined to the US bible belt.
It should be noted that such a narrow view of who goes to heaven is generally confined to fundamentalist sects of Christianity. It does not represent the view of all of Christianity, and I dare say it doesn't represent the majority either.
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Reps: 5,570,983,808,792 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by plindboe Remember that this is religion, i.e. you're allowed to use your imagination. What if it's not possible to become bored or tired of (after)life in Heaven? What if one will be eternally happy and fullfilled? That's not torture, that's the ultimate dream.
You, probably unintentionally, give the impression that you reject christianity due to wishful thinking.
Personally my lack of belief has to do with lack of evidence.
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Likewise, my lack of belief is also based on a complete absence of evidence supporting it.
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is also based on a complete absence of evidence supporting it.
Still, to live forever, in any condition, is a one way ticket to stagnation.
depends, Again!
IF the definition, of "living forever" - to someone means:
Sitting...& merely watching... the world go by
(as all too many do now), then that continues amounting,
like you said, to STAGNATION  still, like so much pond scum.
otoh,
When, as so many Thinkers... Scientists... Athletes... &
others of us are doing... pushing our BELIEFS & therefore limits of what is possible
(given a few human-limits), further & further HEAVEN eternally is blissful evolution
Yesterday, in a related subject: Jesus walked on water. posts #103, & #105 
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