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19th September 2009, 04:48 PM
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They were building a tower, not the USS Enterprise E.
This is a tower: 
and this is a starship: 
One's technologically advanced, the other is incredibly primitive. Take your pick.
If God decides what's "too fast", and he deems a tower "too fast", then we're smegged. |
19th September 2009, 04:56 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET 
You still aren't answering any of the questions raised in this thread, just rehashing them. I'm trying to get through the QV'd thread as quickly as possible, but if there's a post in it where you actually say what Babel was and whether there's evidence for it or not, feel free to fire me the link  |
19th September 2009, 07:13 PM
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Reps: 272,102,686,467,179 (power: 272,102,686,475) | | Originally Posted by Cabal Now I'm wondering why in the world an interstellar spacecraft (or whatever the heck this thing is alleged to be) would end up getting a mere paragraph described as a "tower."
just go ask zecharia sitchin, he'll use his mad leet cuniform reading skills to tell you that the bible and sumarian myths really say rocket and not tower Well, let's not go nuts here - we're debating one person's hypothesis on what the Tower of Babel was, and I suspect it's a stretch at best.
ETA: I do love the "literalism" rearing its entertaining head yet again.
I should make a "literalist"-English dictionary.
Entries so far include:
"very good" = perfect
"tower" = INTERSTELLAR WARP DRIVE SPACECRAFT!!!!!1one
well of course! don't you know words magically mean anything i want them to mean, even tower becoming rocket?
personally i think it was a stargate! i just hope the goa'uld don't get us 
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19th September 2009, 07:28 PM
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Reps: 5,570,983,808,792 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ReverendDG well of course! don't you know words magically mean anything i want them to mean, even tower becoming rocket?
personally i think it was a stargate! i just hope the goa'uld don't get us 
'Sok, we'll just get Macgy- er, I mean O'Neill, Carter and Daniel. They'll wonder off and find Teal'C. |
19th September 2009, 07:59 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,796) | | Originally Posted by Alunyel The irony is,
that God -
allegedly got mad and split humanity up, by seperating their language into multiple languages,
for
working together to build a tower,
Allege whatever, but that doesn't change the fact that God took this action, for a different reason, as you may know.
Originally Posted by Alunyel yet now we've got this: 
Working past the barriers of language, we've worked together
and built something, higher up than the Tower of Babel could've possibly ever been.
I see.
and
because of its 'scientific-progress' (like that one above),
humanity also has reached the heights... of its kind:
No-abortions, No-killing, No-murder, No-suffering, No-suicide, No-war, No-death\ ---
only
Peaceful, Thankful, Hopeful, Joyful, Youthful, Cheerful, & Helpful, yes
each of earth's billions of individuals choose living these qualities, because humanity "works together", which people evidence this?
Originally Posted by Alunyel God must be
throwing a right old tantrum, right about now.
people, who claimed God doesn't exist,
yet say "God must be..." Good beginning there.
but
Be careful, not to re-make God, in your own 'chosen' image;
meaning like "Little-boys temper tantrum" you rage... defiantly against Him with.
Thankfully, our God is, and Creates/Rules as a GOD-of-Love...  Remember this.
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19th September 2009, 08:29 PM
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Makes you wonder if there would be any morals? What a world this would be. God knew what He was doing and what we needed.
Easily answered.
Often societies that never saw a bible, had good morals.
Often societies which had bibles managed to kill, steal, rape, lie, ...
That is, societies without bibles can act with good morals. Societies with bibles can act with bad morals.
You only have to read a bit of history to find this out.
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19th September 2009, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverendDG really?
are you saying that without hearing the gospel of christ YOU became a christian? if you are claiming this,
you are one of the few ever in the history of the world to become a follower of christ
without hearing or reading the bible, in some form, the other being paul.
i'd love to hear how that happened, did god give you a vision like paul? did you have an NDE?
i really can honestly say i don't believe you, being that you use every name given to jesus ever and jesus seems to have only given one person ever a vision of himself, without them ever reading or hearing some sort of story about jesus.
that was paul of course.
twice dishonesty:
First you say: " i'd love to hear how that happened".
Then you say: " i really can honestly say i don't  believe you"
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I've never claimed God/Jesus giving me, any more visions than He Himself gave you, or any other of His Created children.
I am a simple child of His, one of God's Eternally-beloved children...
and No 'nde' either.
For Truth: (not cognizant of a 'Bible'), with God's loving pre-mortal imprinting/programming - I simply re-connected, and
followed...  , as can you, as can any other of God's children... This choice of Allowing...God/Jesus to save you, remains yours!
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19th September 2009, 09:21 PM
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Reps: 45,773,809,592,680,992 (power: 45,773,809,592,685) | | Originally Posted by Parogar Everything creationists believe in, is based on a SINGLE book, written by men thousands of years ago.
What's your point? Everything evolutionists believe in hinges on a single book as well - considering how Chamber's Vestiges was soundly trashed by the establishment, there's no chance that evolution would be trendy today without the publication of Origin.
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19th September 2009, 09:25 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by marlowe007 What's your point? Everything evolutionists believe in hinges on a single book as well
Hardly. - considering how Chamber's Vestiges was trashed by the establishment, there's no chance that evolution would be trendy today without the publication of Origin.
Trashed by the establishment, including the church, I notice. But what's new there, eh? |
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by rjw Often societies that never saw a bible, had good morals.
You only have to read a bit of history to find this out.
Or the Bible: Originally Posted by Romans 2:14-15 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another:
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