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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
That's closer to the Truth than you think --- in my opinion.

I adhere to the theory that God caused the Babel Incident to occur because [human] science, which is hostile toward God, was progressing too quickly.
Masonry threatens God? Really?

Have you ever been to New York recently? I think they got closer to heaven than any Sumerian-era ziggurat did.

ETA: I've just realised that the obvious explanation here, a ziggurat, is probably not what you were talking about. In the context of space-travel....what? Was Babel some kind of launchpad? And what possible moral problem could there be with travelling to other planets? If we're not supposed to do it, then maybe God shouldn't have made us inquisitive?
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The irony is, that God allegedly got mad and split humanity up, by seperating their language into multiple languages, for working together to build a tower, yet now we've got this:



Working past the barriers of language, we've worked together and built something higher up than the Tower of Babel could've possibly ever been.

God must be throwing a right old tantrum, right about now.
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ETA: I've just realised that the obvious explanation here, a ziggurat, is probably not what you were talking about. In the context of space-travel....what? Was Babel some kind of launchpad? And what possible moral problem could there be with travelling to other planets? If we're not supposed to do it, then maybe God shouldn't have made us inquisitive?
If we're not supposed to do it, then... oh wait, too late.
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Originally Posted by azmurath View Post
If we're not supposed to do it, then... oh wait, too late.
Well, we've only ever visited the moon ourselves, which technically isn't a planet.

Why do I have this horrible sinking feeling that AV will try and shoehorn in a good old Pluto-themed scientist-bash any time now....
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Originally Posted by Cabal View Post
Why do I have this horrible sinking feeling that AV will try and shoehorn in a good old Pluto-themed scientist-bash any time now....
While you're waiting for me to to that, why don't you re-read the last two words of my post.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
While you're waiting for me to to that, why don't you re-read the last two words of my post.
"My post"? What about it?

Oh right, "too quickly."

And again, what's the problem with space travel exactly?

And hang on a second, when did nature being hostile to God change to human science being hostile towards God?

ETA: Btw, you've no evidence for that "theory" - I believe the correct term is hypothesis?
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Even if it did exist, the tower didn't exactly have warp drive engines, it would've just been a tower.

Just how slow did God expect us to develop, technologically?

If he was really that capable of stopping our advancement, then think of all of the other advancements he would've stopped, because they were being developed "too quickly".

AIDS vaccines?
Deep space travel?
Efficient, renewable and cleaner energy sources?

Instead, he splits us up, and you have to ask yourself, if he hadn't split us up, and divided us, then would we've had so much war?

Alternatively, and more logically, migration is responsible for our seperation, and there never was a tower.
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Originally Posted by Alunyel View Post
Even if it did exist, the tower didn't exactly have warp drive engines, it would've just been a tower.
Now I'm wondering why in the world an interstellar spacecraft (or whatever the heck this thing is alleged to be) would end up getting a mere paragraph described as a "tower."

Just how slow did God expect us to develop, technologically?

If he was really that capable of stopping our advancement, then think of all of the other advancements he would've stopped, because they were being developed "too quickly".

AIDS vaccines?
Deep space travel?
Efficient, renewable and cleaner energy sources?

Instead, he splits us up, and you have to ask yourself, if he hadn't split us up, and divided us, then would we've had so much war?

Alternatively, and more logically, migration is responsible for our seperation, and there never was a tower.
Well, let's not go nuts here - we're debating one person's hypothesis on what the Tower of Babel was, and I suspect it's a stretch at best.

ETA: I do love the "literalism" rearing its entertaining head yet again.

I should make a "literalist"-English dictionary.

Entries so far include:

"very good" = perfect
"tower" = INTERSTELLAR WARP DRIVE SPACECRAFT!!!!!1one
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