Christians and the New World Order

ThankGodforGod · #21 20th September 2009, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Texas Lynn

That's just the neoconservatives. Here's the good guys:

www.oldamericancentury.org

I love seeing the look on a die hard Bush supporter's face when you start laying out all the evidence that the Bush cabinet had planned war with Iraq since the 80's. The first thing I show them is the "Project for a New American Century" and almost every time they tell me it is a conspiracy (the document is fake).

ThankGodforGod · #22 20th September 2009, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Texas Lynn

Considering how people can't keep secrets that's highly significant.

Well if you think about it, by definition they are without fact, conspiracy theories that are supported by evidence are called history.

HisdaughterJen · #23 20th September 2009, 08:53 PM

Here's a prophetic conspiracy that is coming to pass before our eyes:

Rev 13:1¶And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
...
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.

...
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

That's the nations of the world agreeing to a global government, with a global financial system, and a global religion led by the devil.

Huh...go figure! This stuff is all over the daily headlines!

Need more proof?

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

That is describing a 10 region world consortium who agree to allow the devil to control the world.

Yeah, I'd say that's the mother of all conspiracies and it's coming together right before your eyes.

marke · #24 20th September 2009, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by RMDY

Alright people, this is a topic about conspiracy theories and christianity.

There has been a great falling away from christianity as a result of a push for athiesm, world religions, and materialism.

People in the US are having their rights violated and at the same time being labeled as domestic terrorists as a result of using their rights to protest against government intrusion in their lives.

MORE NONSENSE. People, the reason there is a great falling away from Christianity is nonsense like this.

Read his next sentence. How WRONG does it get! As Christians, we TRUST God to give us the leaders HE does. We don't have ANY rights to protest our government. We say "YOUR WILL BE DONE. AMEN".

OK BUDDY> Get your scripture to support your position or get the hell out of here with your nonsense. Specifically, show us NT scripture saying even anything close regarding overthrowing your God given government.

If bad vibes are directed toward "Christianity" it's because of people like you who profess Christ, but spread nonsense like this. Go ahead, perhaps I'm wrong myself and need to ask you for forgiveness, produce the scripture.

marke · #25 20th September 2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by ThankGodforGod

I love seeing the look on a die hard Bush supporter's face when you start laying out all the evidence that the Bush cabinet had planned war with Iraq since the 80's. The first thing I show them is the "Project for a New American Century" and almost every time they tell me it is a conspiracy (the document is fake).

That's nothing. Have people look up the "BUSH DOCTRINE" that was posted on the White House website for years. It should be public record. The whole plan to take over the middle east is detailed on an official government document. 9/11 was the excuse to put it into action. It didn't matter that IRAQ didn't attact us or have anything to do with the attack. Even the connection the WRONG Administration said over and over again was there (lies in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary) has proven to be another lie.

God is clear what HE considers an abomination to His soul and gay marriage is not listed. Lies, deceit, killing innocent people is listed as is divorce between a Man and woman is listed time and time and time and time again and the church is silent on the subject. Bit odd those who call themselves "Fundamental Christians" can't discern between what God considers good and evil.

It's the fruit. Don't follow blindly.

HisdaughterJen · #26 20th September 2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by marke

MORE NONSENSE. People, the reason there is a great falling away from Christianity is nonsense like this.

Read his next sentence. How WRONG does it get! As Christians, we TRUST God to give us the leaders HE does. We don't have ANY rights to protest our government. We say "YOUR WILL BE DONE. AMEN".

OK BUDDY> Get your scripture to support your position or get the hell out of here with your nonsense. Specifically, show us NT scripture saying even anything close regarding overthrowing your God given government.

If bad vibes are directed toward "Christianity" it's because of people like you who profess Christ, but spread nonsense like this. Go ahead, perhaps I'm wrong myself and need to ask you for forgiveness, produce the scripture.

Yet, we are also told, Marke, that there is an anti-christ and false prophet coming. Should we bow to them, like Nebuchadnezzar's 90 foot statue, and worship and obey? NO! A million times NO!

IN fact, the Bible says that whoever bows the knee/takes the mark to this coming global government will lose their life eternally - burn in hell.

So, do you really want to be encouraging people to bow down, Marke?

HisdaughterJen · #27 20th September 2009, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by marke

That's nothing. Have people look up the "BUSH DOCTRINE" that was posted on the White House website for years. It should be public record. The whole plan to take over the middle east is detailed on an official government document. 9/11 was the excuse to put it into action. It didn't matter that IRAQ didn't attact us or have anything to do with the attack. Even the connection the WRONG Administration said over and over again was there (lies in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary) has proven to be another lie.

God is clear what HE considers an abomination to His soul and gay marriage is not listed. Lies, deceit, killing innocent people is listed as is divorce between a Man and woman is listed time and time and time and time again and the church is silent on the subject. Bit odd those who call themselves "Fundamental Christians" can't discern between what God considers good and evil.

It's the fruit. Don't follow blindly.

What does Bush have to do with anything, NOW, Marke? It's 2009 and the president is Obama. Do you miss the days when you could Bush-bash? Is that it? Are you having symptoms of withdrawal and need to keep hammering away at "evil bush" to satisfy a bizarre need?

Yes, God indeed is clear on the fruits of evil. Some are listed in my signature. Take notes.

Texas Lynn · #28 21st September 2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by ThankGodforGod

I love seeing the look on a die hard Bush supporter's face when you start laying out all the evidence that the Bush cabinet had planned war with Iraq since the 80's. The first thing I show them is the "Project for a New American Century" and almost every time they tell me it is a conspiracy (the document is fake).

There's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on with people all upset about things with Obama as Prez when just a few months ago under Bush everything was peachy keen.

I was just reading something about the President I think was the greatest, Franklin D. Roosevelt and although I had heard it before I didn't make the connection: people really did say Roosevelt was really a Jew and his real name was Franklin D. Rosenfeld! And because Eleanor Roosevelt supported civil rights some people actually said she was African-American, though they used an objectionable term for it. That's about as stupid as the silly conspiracy yarns about Obama being a Muslim born in Kenya or being a Russian agent and so forth. I guess it just shows that wherever you go people say crazy things about the leaders.

Heck, people in England at the time of our American Revolution probably said King George III and his wife Queen Charlotte had 17 children (they really did) as part of plot to take over England for the Germans (George III's grandfather, George I, had started the current line after being a Prince of the German principality of Hanover)

taku60 · #29 21st September 2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by marke

MORE NONSENSE. People, the reason there is a great falling away from Christianity is nonsense like this.

Read his next sentence. How WRONG does it get! As Christians, we TRUST God to give us the leaders HE does. We don't have ANY rights to protest our government. We say "YOUR WILL BE DONE. AMEN".

OK BUDDY> Get your scripture to support your position or get the hell out of here with your nonsense. Specifically, show us NT scripture saying even anything close regarding overthrowing your God given government.

If bad vibes are directed toward "Christianity" it's because of people like you who profess Christ, but spread nonsense like this. Go ahead, perhaps I'm wrong myself and need to ask you for forgiveness, produce the scripture.

Why does it have to be NT scripture why cant it be OT scripture, its almost like some christians are like the opposite of jews they only believe the NT and not the OT where as jews only believe the OT and not the NT. The last time I checked the bible is the Old and New testimate, if there is something in the NT that is inconsistant with the OT then there is a translation error or a context issue on the part of the reader, there should be no inconsistancys in the bible.

taku60 · #30 21st September 2009, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by marke

That's nothing. Have people look up the "BUSH DOCTRINE" that was posted on the White House website for years. It should be public record. The whole plan to take over the middle east is detailed on an official government document. 9/11 was the excuse to put it into action. It didn't matter that IRAQ didn't attact us or have anything to do with the attack. Even the connection the WRONG Administration said over and over again was there (lies in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary) has proven to be another lie.

God is clear what HE considers an abomination to His soul and gay marriage is not listed. Lies, deceit, killing innocent people is listed as is divorce between a Man and woman is listed time and time and time and time again and the church is silent on the subject. Bit odd those who call themselves "Fundamental Christians" can't discern between what God considers good and evil.

It's the fruit. Don't follow blindly.

Divorce is actually NOT listed time and time and time again it is listed once between the 4 gospels and is often times taken way out of context and then one more time in 1 cor which is tied back to the one gospel teaching on divorce. The OT says that it is an abomination for a man to lye with another man and goes on to say lye with an animal, relative, etc.