Well, that was my testamony. Jesus saved me, and I did a 180, I'm a different person, with the Holy spirit inside of me, Im sure someone will answer your questions in more detail
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I'm afraid I can't honestly say I "love" Jesus. I don't see Him. I don't hear Him.
I've read about Him.
"Spiritually" speaking, I only want to be a Christian simply to avoid Hell.
To me, the stick is more of a threat than the carrot is a promise.
I've never been sure of my own salvation. Yes, I've prayed all the standard prayers.
I've prayed, begged, pleaded, reasoned, cursed and yelled. Though it is apparently
evil, I've looked for "signs" to indicate any sort of communication
or acknowledgement. Nothing.
According to my all my God-given senses, nothing has changed in me or my life.
It seems to me, God is an omnipotent, indifferent, monolithic being.
There are many references in the Bible to the fact that most people will Not be saved
and, in fact, will burn forever in Hell.
Now I'm wondering, if I'm just NOT one of the pre-selected humans destined to be
included in His Heaven.
Yes, God is good, but maybe what is "good" to me and what is good to Him are two
different things. We are told that
ALL things work towards the glory of God. Maybe my eternal suffering in Hell is just
part of a bigger plan that I can't understand and wouldn't appreciate.
The O.S.A.S. school of thought seems to be not much more than self deception.
Even the elect can and will be fooled.
I'm certain that Jesus/God exists.
But what good does it do Him to make so many people/souls burn in Hell forever and
ever?(You'd think a few days or years would prove His point, then after that He could just poof them out of existence)
I believe Heaven is a great place, but's it's not gonna be for everybody.
This is not meant to be irreverent, just plain talk about the questions and worries of
many, including some clergy.
Hmmm, I think when it comes to sin, we as a whole tend to underestimate just how severe it is in God's sight. Christ reconciles us to the Father, so that death and sin no longer carry their sting, and we can once again fellowship with God.
Sin separated man from God, sin brought death into the world, sin is the domain of the one who rebelled first, that is the devil, so when we rebel in our sins, God sees the work of the one who rebelled first at work, and that displeases Him.
I used to feel like you did, with the whole just wanting to escape the fires of Hell, but you know what? For a beginning believer, I dare say, that's okay. You heard the warning of a coming danger, and you believed it. That shows the seed of faith has been planted.
If I had to guess, you feel angry about this silent treatment? I just say that because for a time I was angry and demanded an answer, and it wasn't until I realized God doesn't explain things rationally to an irrational child that I had to calm down and humble myself before Him. Just take a deep breath, try and quell your anger if you feel it, and just talk to Him. Don't shout and curse, just lay it before Him and tell God that's how you feel, what your frustrations are, He's not apathetic to your situation. He knows your plights, your fears, your concerns, your hopes, your dreams.
It just takes time to realize, just as we feel all this, so does Christ in us feel it too. When Lazarus died, Jesus wept after all. He knew the family missed him dearly, and he too felt their sorrow, but there was work of the Father to be done.
I hope that helps some.
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I have been pondering some questions I had for a while.
1) A pastor told me. "God won't love you anymore if you fast for over 40 days." (Because at the time I just finished fasting 40 days, and asked him if I should continue out the fast)
So you're disciplined enough to fast for 40 days, during that time I'm assuming you are seeking God as this is the whole purpose of a fast. At the end of it, you hear this amazingly stupid thing from "a pastor" and you have to ponder if it's true for a long time? Am I with you so far?
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"Hmmm, I think when it comes to sin, we as a whole tend to underestimate just how severe it is in God's sight. Christ reconciles us to the Father, so that death and sin no longer carry their sting, and we can once again fellowship with God.
Sin separated man from God, sin brought death into the world, sin is the domain of the one who rebelled first, that is the devil, so when we rebel in our sins, God sees the work of the one who rebelled first at work, and that displeases Him."
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I agree that you're correct in that regard. I think GOD feels your sin as the old disheartening kick in the stomach, a lot like when a husband or wife commits adultery against their spouse.
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"I used to feel like you did, with the whole just wanting to escape the fires of Hell, but you know what? For a beginning believer, I dare say, that's okay. You heard the warning of a coming danger, and you believed it. That shows the seed of faith has been planted."
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Thank You for empathizing. I was baptised over thirteen years ago in a Christian Church. I've done what probably most Christians here have done as far as "getting saved" and "born again". I think my long held beliefs adhere to Christian, Biblical Doctrine and I've never doubted that God is in charge and is the Creator of all that exists.
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"If I had to guess, you feel angry about this silent treatment? I just say that because for a time I was angry and demanded an answer, and it wasn't until I realized God doesn't explain things rationally to an irrational child that I had to calm down and humble myself before Him. Just take a deep breath, try and quell your anger if you feel it, and just talk to Him. Don't shout and curse, just lay it before Him and tell God that's how you feel, what your frustrations are, He's not apathetic to your situation. He knows your plights, your fears, your concerns, your hopes, your dreams."
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Yes, frustration is the operative word, here, and yes, it does turn to anger at times. But most of the time I just talk to him. I know it sounds crazy, but sometimes I pretend he's sitting in the truck with me on the way to and from work. I have no desire for Him to "appear" next to me, but it sure does seem now, and in retrospect, that I may as well have been talking to a cigar store indian, if you understand what I'm trying to say.
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"It just takes time to realize, just as we feel all this, so does Christ in us feel it too. When Lazarus died, Jesus wept after all. He knew the family missed him dearly, and he too felt their sorrow, but there was work of the Father to be done."
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It won't be long before time is up for me, I'm not going to live forever on earth, you know, I've squandered most of my time here already.
And as to Him weeping for Lazarus, why was he crying? He knew he was going to raise him from the dead. It seems I recall Him asking the same question of others in a similar situation.
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"I hope that helps some."
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But Yes, I appreciate your reply. It did help some.
Thank You
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But Yes, I appreciate your reply. It did help some.
Thank You
I'm glad it can in whatever way I can be of use. I guess the only thing else I could mention is, don't rely too much on emotion or feelings to be what underscores your relationship, since we rest on solid truths and promises written in scripture and not on highs and lows in emotional states. God's promises are timeless as is His love for you, so hang in there, I'll be praying.
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you have some question about rewards plus death well here some scripture read please hear what jesus said revelation 22 11-14 now here are some more scrip st john 5 24-28 job 14 10-12 ecclesiastes 12 -13 luke 4 14-16 leviticus 23-1-3 there more to the sabbth then people think tell me what you think now
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