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19th September 2009, 03:41 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Meshach  Or dont limit God. For He alone can make the rocks cry out but there are still some of us who haven't ceased praising Him.
How am I limiting God?
I'm not the one who's trying to dictate which of his creations should and should not have emotions, based on a faulty description of his processes. |
19th September 2009, 04:08 PM
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He's clearly never seen another animal in his life. I've never seen another animal that hasn't been expressing some kind of emotion. (Insects not included). |
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Reps: 6,617,612,196,484,710 (power: 6,617,612,196,487) | | Originally Posted by Cabal How am I limiting God?
I'm not the one who's trying to dictate which of his creations should and should not have emotions, based on a faulty description of his processes.
You were not in a round about way saying rocks have emotions? I would think more in the manner of God shaken the earth and the rocks or stones clanging together in a manner of raising praises to God. I never said other creations did not have emotions. I did however state that in no way do they posses some of the emotions we have(we are unique in many ways) and the ones we share there is no way they reach the level we do.
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19th September 2009, 04:15 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Meshach You were not in a round about way saying rocks have emotions? I would think more in the manner of God shaken the earth and the rocks or stones clanging together in a manner of raising praises to God.
Huh. Guess I did always think of those verses in a literal way. But that's a good take on it too  I never said other creations did not have emotions. I did however state that in no way do they posses some of the emotions we have(we are unique in many ways) and the ones we share there is no way they reach the level we do.
Indeed - there is no reason one should assume all members of a given set of traits will appear consistently across all species, variation is the point of evolution after all. Sorry I got the jist of your post wrong. |
19th September 2009, 05:38 PM
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Reps: 38,330,407,492,018 (power: 38,330,407,495) | | Originally Posted by Meshach Or dont limit God. For He alone can make the rocks cry out but there are still some of us who haven't ceased praising Him.
And you never will cease to praise him because your God is you, your God is in your imagination and is limited only by your imagination, your God can do as much or as little as your imagination will allow him to do. |
19th September 2009, 08:22 PM
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Clearly people who say animals don't have emotions haven't really observed them |
19th September 2009, 08:37 PM
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Reps: 1,680,906,890 (power: 1,680,914) | | Originally Posted by lukeman Or would they? I don't see how evolution is smart enough to come up with emotions like fear/laughter/anger/happiness/satisfaction. To create emotions evolution would have to say to itself, "what can i do to make something happy and how to feel that happiness?" (it takes a conscious something to think of and invent emotions i believe)and then go engineer it in the brain. I don't think of it as being such a necessary function to have anyways i mean wouldn't the job of reproduction still get accomplished if we were programmed like machines to do so? so I think that animals would just be emotionless robots if evolution were to run the show.
I guess I'm saying that there was some other higher power influences on the way, what do you think?
The problem is, your point is only evidence for a higher power. But it explains nothing.
Evolution on the other hand, is a scientific theory that attempts to explain how intelligence could have arisen naturalistically.
If emotions are simply outcomes of a particular kind of organization of neurons in the brain, then genetics (and hence, by extension, evolution) does explain it. Let me put it this way, how we think brains are formed during development, is our explanation. How we think this genetic system arose, is explained by evolution.
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