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18th September 2009, 09:22 PM
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19th September 2009, 12:01 AM
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"Whom having not seen, ye love: in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory. Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls." My state of being is truly thrilled knowing full well of God's great gift of grace in my life, and the joy that bubbles over in my soul truly is hard to speak of. This is a far stronger and deeper feeling than just being happy. Even if you were to take all the words that describe the emotion happy, and magnify them many times, it still doesn't even come close to the unspeakable joy that one experiences from KNOWING God loves you. No Animal can experience joy at this level, this is obvious and ridiculous to even consider. We do have the ability to know God, worship God, pray to God or to choose to believe in Him or not. Can animals? Peace, hope and awe are a few more of many emotions experienced at the greatest level through knowing God. Animals couldn't even come close to experiencing this, ever.
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I asked Jesus "How much do you love me?" He answered "This much". Then He stretched out His arms and died for me. If you have everything but Jesus, you have nothing. If you have nothing but Jesus, you have everything. Have you given much thought to where you are going to spend eternity? | 
19th September 2009, 12:27 AM
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And you know this... how?
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19th September 2009, 02:27 AM
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Reps: 38,330,407,492,018 (power: 38,330,407,495) | | Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff And you know this... how?
His preacher told him, his preacher knows everything there is to know about evolution except perhaps what it is and how it works, it's called the blind leading the blind, ignorance is bliss and he seems blissfully happy in his ignorance,
I sometimes wish I could fool myself into believing in an all powerful creator but alas it's never to be, my brain will never let it happen.
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19th September 2009, 04:19 AM
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Reps: 4,789,207,537 (power: 4,789,210) | | Originally Posted by ragarth Dogs also laugh. :-) One of the most awesome animal behaviour experiments I read about involved tickling dogs.
My dog just giggled a little when he read this.  | 
19th September 2009, 04:49 AM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Meshach 1 Peter 1: 8-9 KJV
"Whom having not seen, ye love: in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory. Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls." My state of being is truly thrilled knowing full well of God's great gift of grace in my life, and the joy that bubbles over in my soul truly is hard to speak of. This is a far stronger and deeper feeling than just being happy. Even if you were to take all the words that describe the emotion happy, and magnify them many times, it still doesn't even come close to the unspeakable joy that one experiences from KNOWING God loves you. No Animal can experience joy at this level, this is obvious and ridiculous to even consider. We do have the ability to know God, worship God, pray to God or to choose to believe in Him or not. Can animals? Peace, hope and awe are a few more of many emotions experienced at the greatest level through knowing God. Animals couldn't even come close to experiencing this, ever.
"Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD." Psalm 150:6...? | 
19th September 2009, 11:01 AM
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I bet! Experiments in humer in the animal kingdom used to be pretty popular. An experiment done on this at one point involved piping dog laughs over a speaker system in a kennel to measure the dogs' responses. Sound of Dog's 'Laugh' Calms Other Pooches - ABC News | 
19th September 2009, 12:38 PM
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Everything that has breath, what breath? Maybe this breath.
Gen 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Eccl 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
And if we cease to praise then what? Luke 19:37-40
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19th September 2009, 12:55 PM
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Meshach Everything that has breath, what breath? Maybe this breath.
Gen 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Eccl 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
And if we cease to praise then what? Luke 19:37-40
Stones will praise then? Looks like those emotions aren't unique to humans either way you choose to reinterpret. | 
19th September 2009, 03:33 PM
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Reps: 6,617,612,196,484,710 (power: 6,617,612,196,487) | | Originally Posted by Cabal Stones will praise then? Looks like those emotions aren't unique to humans either way you choose to reinterpret.
Or dont limit God. For He alone can make the rocks cry out but there are still some of us who haven't ceased praising Him.
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