War - gog on horizon?

EnemyPartyII · #31 16th September 2009, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by kotel

Iran does not have a fleet airplanes or troop carrying ships to transport a huge army required to invade this land, but they don't need a miracle, converted container ships containing troops could dock at ports without being noticed.

Once again, I see we have people with absolutely no understanding of how the military works flapping about stuff that could never happen.

1. Merely getting troops on the ground in ports around the country wouldn't be a adequate to mounting an invasion... for an invasion to be effective, you need a high concentration of troops in a concentrated place in a concentrated time. Having troops come in in dribs and drabs at ports around the country over the days and weeks it would take for container ships to unload simply wouldn't do it.

2. Forgetting about the sheer inefficiency of the container ship as troop ship model for a moment, lets imagine they do manage to get an invasion level number of troops in the same place at the same time... you realise that about 90% of military effort is dealing with logistics? Without echelon support to take care of bullets and beans, and medical care, and fuel, and spare parts, and replacement troops and C3, any "invasion" would grind to a halt in hours.

There's a reason defence personnel, who are trained to analyse threats don't think containerships of Iranians are a threat. I wonder if you're going to now argue about how the experts are wrong, and you, with no military or logistic training, knows better?

kotel · #32 17th September 2009, 02:21 AM

HisdaughterJen
As far as Iranians invading the US, there are stories that foreign troops are in South America (I don't know if it's true) and that middle-eastern men have poured over the Southern border already. (I live in Phoenix and have personally seen some interesting things over the past few years.)

Foreign troops in South America and Mexico today is possible, especially as we get closer to the invasion date when many foreign troops from the south may invade us. I know China controls one or two sea ports in Mexico and one in San Diego that could be used to unload soldiers. Arabs have bought several sea ports on the east coast and one maybe in the south. Foreign soldiers may also come across the Canadian border. Foreign troops have been on U.S. soil for some time now with equipment, vehicles and tanks training here for the inevitable fall and take over of our country. Jer 51:14 prophesies of many soldiers overwhelming our nation after its fall.

chingchang · #33 17th September 2009, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by kotel

Foreign troops in South America and Mexico today is possible, especially as we get closer to the invasion date when many foreign troops from the south may invade us. I know China controls one or two sea ports in Mexico and one in San Diego that could be used to unload soldiers. Arabs have bought several sea ports on the east coast and one maybe in the south. Foreign soldiers may also come across the Canadian border. Foreign troops have been on U.S. soil for some time now with equipment, vehicles and tanks training here for the inevitable fall and take over of our country. Jer 51:14 prophesies of many soldiers overwhelming our nation after its fall.

Good luck taking over here in Texas. We're armed like you wouldn't belive. We have a State Guard (with an Air Guard) and various Militias. That said...about the only non-US troops I can envision on US soil would be UN troops.

I think the idea of the US ever being invaded is quite ridiculous. Besides...in the not so distant future national soveriengty (sp?) won't mean anything...so there won't be anything to "take-over". If you're trying to figure out why the US doesn't appear in Biblical End-Times study...it is probably because we're either broke by that time or we're on-board with the Europeans. Or...our interpretation could be wrong...or the prophecy could be bunk.

CC

get it right · #34 17th September 2009, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by chingchang

Good luck taking over here in Texas. We're armed like you wouldn't belive. We have a State Guard (with an Air Guard) and various Militias. That said...about the only non-US troops I can envision on US soil would be UN troops.

I think the idea of the US ever being invaded is quite ridiculous. Besides...in the not so distant future national soveriengty (sp?) won't mean anything...so there won't be anything to "take-over". If you're trying to figure out why the US doesn't appear in Biblical End-Times study...it is probably because we're either broke by that time or we're on-board with the Europeans. Or...our interpretation could be wrong...or the prophecy could be bunk.

CC

Not a fan of kotel, but glad I'm not relying on those forces.

HisdaughterJen · #35 17th September 2009, 04:10 PM

Iran has the bomb and is developing a missle shield for themselves while on the anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland, Obama kills the missle shield in Poland that was meant to protect Europe! Meanwhile, Israel is begging the UN, which apparently is blaming Israel for everything, to honor their right to self-defense.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551501,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...lawmakers-say/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/am...eld/index.html

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...s.html?showall
"Polish PM wouldn't take U.S. calls"

heavensblade23 · #36 17th September 2009, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen

Obama kills the missle shield in Poland that was meant to protect Europe!

Good, the technology doesn't work and we don't have the money to spend on it right now.

Meanwhile, Israel is begging the UN, which apparently is blaming Israel for everything, to honor their right to self-defense.

The UN has no obligation to listen to Israel on any topic, until Israel starts listening to the UN. You gotta pay to play.

HisdaughterJen · #37 17th September 2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by heavensblade23

Good, the technology doesn't work and we don't have the money to spend on it right now.

The UN has no obligation to listen to Israel on any topic, until Israel starts listening to the UN. You gotta pay to play.

Read the Bible recently, Heavensblade23? Israel is going to be saved by God Himself when the whole world comes against her. They are either standing on the sidelines, doing nothing during the invasion, or attacking her directly. (Ezek 38)

heavensblade23 · #38 17th September 2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen

Read the Bible recently, Heavensblade23? Israel is going to be saved by God Himself when the whole world comes against her. They are either standing on the sidelines, doing nothing during the invasion, or attacking her directly. (Ezek 38)

There are a lot of valid reasons to oppose what Israel is doing since they're not exactly taking the moral high ground.

HisdaughterJen · #39 17th September 2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by heavensblade23

There are a lot of valid reasons to oppose what Israel is doing since they're not exactly taking the moral high ground.

They are building settlements on their own, God-given, land. They are trying to protect themselves from people who are sworn to their destruction whom God refers to as "thorny neighbors" and "painful briars" to Israel in Ezek 28:24-26. God is going to stand up for them in a big way.

heavensblade23 · #40 17th September 2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen

They are building settlements on their own, God-given, land. They are trying to protect themselves from people who are sworn to their destruction whom God refers to as "thorny neighbors" and "painful briars" to Israel in Ezek 28:24-26. God is going to stand up for them in a big way.

And firing on the Red Cross and dropping illegal munitions on warehouses containing refugees...