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Old 9th September 2009, 03:22 PM
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1.8 Million yo human ancestor found in Eurasia!

1.8 million year old human ancestor fossils found in Eurasia, adding another chapter to our evolutionary history!

A skull that rewrites the history of man - Science, News - The Independent
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I find that article a little bit deceptive. It sounds like it tries to pass these off as human, when they're not.

It is interesting, though, learning that we may've migrated North before H. Erectus, then finally migrating back South to eventually become H. Sapiens.
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Originally Posted by Alunyel View Post
I find that article a little bit deceptive. It sounds like it tries to pass these off as human, when they're not.

It is interesting, though, learning that we may've migrated North before H. Erectus, then finally migrating back South to eventually become H. Sapiens.
The article has them listed as eary hominins, is this not correct?
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Originally Posted by Alunyel View Post
I find that article a little bit deceptive. It sounds like it tries to pass these off as human, when they're not.
It says that these new finds are the earliest representatives of the Homo genus. So that does make them a human species.

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Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! View Post
1.8 million year old human ancestor fossils found in Eurasia, adding another chapter to our evolutionary history!

A skull that rewrites the history of man - Science, News - The Independent
I am not sure why finding some old monkey bones excites you? Don't you think the cockroach is a relative too? I guess seeing a living flatworm may be an emotional experience to some! 'Just think, there crawls our actual ancestor...'
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I am not sure why finding some old monkey bones excites you? Don't you think the cockroach is a relative too? I guess seeing a living flatworm may be an emotional experience to some! 'Just think, there crawls our actual ancestor...'
One more piece of the evolutionary puzzle daddy'o.
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Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! View Post
One more piece of the evolutionary puzzle daddy'o.
Nothing puzzling about extinct monkey like critters. They were either a kind, ot adapted from a kind. Whoopee do.


"One of the five skulls is of a person who lost all his or her teeth during their lifetime but had still survived for many years despite being completely toothless. This suggests some kind of social organisation based on mutual care, Professor Lordkipanidze said."
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Or maybe it ate a lot of bananas, and had a better digestive system... After all, they have little more than a skull.

Notice how they wave off the details, of how the "dates" were arrived at. Story telling at it's finest

"Experts believe fossilised bones unearthed at the medieval village of Dmanisi in the foothills of the Caucuses, and dated to about 1.8 million years ago.."

I mean if they gave details, we might at least place the critters near some actual date. Ho hum..yawn.
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I mean if they gave details, we might at least place the critters near some actual date. Ho hum..yawn.
These discoveries are always retrofitted.

Don't try and impress me by finding Tiktaalik, then claiming a victory.

If evolution is such an accurate science --- draw Tiktaalik first, then find it.
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These discoveries are always retrofitted.

Don't try and impress me by finding Tiktaalik, then claiming a victory.

If evolution is such an accurate science --- draw Tiktaalik first, then find it.
As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about. Stay on the reservation AV and quit derailing my threads.

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These discoveries are always retrofitted.

Don't try and impress me by finding Tiktaalik, then claiming a victory.

If evolution is such an accurate science --- draw Tiktaalik first, then find it.
I see your point. They may claim it was predicted, not sure. Since I accept that creation was equipped with the ability to hyper evolve at the time, adaptations from original kinds are no problem. What is certain, is that they cannot take evolution any further than the created original kinds.

By the way, I think there should be more of this...Talking over the evo heads, and bringing biblical truths and God into it!
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