I hate living like this...

heymikey80 · #11 18th September 2009, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Houseperish

so since im such a raging drug addict, care to supply any info on how to deal with thaT? or are you just going to tell me whats wrong with me, like I hAvent already thought about that, tried to work and change it, and hAVE TROUBLE WITH IT EVERY DAY?

I believe you. I've enough friends ensnared in this stuff, too. And enough of them are Christians to where I can guarantee you, you'll be in good company.

Depending on your dependence level -- drugs can be self-medication for depression. You may need to find a counselling group that will pull you away from your environment for awhile -- and that may be tough if you're supporting yourself with a job.

There may also be a narcotics anonymous group meeting in your area. I dunno if AA can direct you, either.

But yeah, it'll be impossible on your own. I know enough to know that.

I also know it's not gonna kill you spiritually to be struggling with addiction. This is not a litmus test. It's forgivable. In fact struggling with it could make you into exactly what God wants you to be -- where not having the problem at all could leave you cold to other people's problems, both with drugs and with depression.

Originally Posted by Houseperish

I'm glad you are a strong Christian unlike me. I guess my place is in Hell unless I get my sh*t together right?

No. "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners." Mk 2:17

In fact, the Bible only says more general things about this being self-damaging. It says far more concerning things about hypocrisy, lying, promiscuity.

We're all wrong, and we've all done something that destroys our "act". We don't have our act together either. I hope at least you realize that: that everyone's putting on a face. We're all putting lipstick on our own hogs. Were we to sacrifice like in the old days, we'd all be lugging cattle behind us to Temple. We couldn't fake it then. And God knows we can't fake Him out.

I don't want you being hurt by it. I wish saying something could make it right, but I know that's not it either.

But it's better to live honestly than to fake having it all together. That's a great door to get through.

alexanderjc · #12 27th October 2009, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Houseperish

so since im such a raging drug addict, care to supply any info on how to deal with thaT? or are you just going to tell me whats wrong with me, like I hAvent already thought about that, tried to work and change it, and hAVE TROUBLE WITH IT EVERY DAY?

I'm glad you are a strong Christian unlike me. I guess my place is in Hell unless I get my sh*t together right?

The Word of God states in Galatians 6:2 "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

My beloved sister that is what we are trying to do here. It is a dangerous approach to take not to tell you the truth and I for one will not pacify anyone when it comes to the errors in the Christian Faith.

I believe that you will do well in what you are going through to read the Book of Job. Our brother was very astound and looked highly upon by God but God allowed Satan to tempt him and perplex him by taking away his livelyhood, his children and finally his health. Where did Job turn for relief? I'm quite sure he could have turn to wine and made himself drunk to wallow in his sufferings, I'm quite sure he could have found some other substance to turn to in his hour of pain but he didn't. Although he wished that he had never been born and questioned God concerning the state that he was in, not once did he curse God or turn his back on his faith.

The correct Christian advice given to you should be no different than you going to the doctor for your alcohol problem. Do you think that he's going to say "well everybody goes through that, you will be ok!" No he's going to tell you point blank that you need to stop or you are going to wind up at the worst killing yourself or endangering the life of someone else.

It is understandible that you need help. God loves you my sister and so do I. Find yourself a church that has a Pastor that will stand up for the Word of God and give you the guidance that you need to get through this. A church where the members are God fearing Holy Ghost filled servants of God. Join a Christian support group to help you build up yourself spiritually in the areas that you are weak and most important seek medical attention if you feel that you have a drug and alcohol problem.

Drugs and alcohol provide a means for the adversary to use you. Both of these items alter the mind and open it up to manipulation by evil forces. If it is humanly possible within yourself refrain from taking any more of this substance.

Always remember that what you see around you is not a real observation of the Body of Christ as a whole. Although we are mixed with tares which often overshadows our presence with a questionable reputation, we are many, we are strong and WE ARE VICTORIOUS IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

You have the victory my sister, just surround yourself with those that are strong in the Lord and in the Power of His Might.

salida · #13 27th October 2009, 08:32 PM

The college public mostly campus unfortunately are filled with liberal antigod professors and so the students turn into this. Its a sad scene. But stand up for Jesus! Be a light on a hill. Go to a church that gives you a lot of inspiration-christians do get along. I get along with my christians friends. There should be a christian college group that meets-attend this! Don't let these wicked people get to you-this is what they want to do. Get to them-make THEM think. Plus, a great book to read for college students is- the University of Destruction by David Wheaton (its a game plan for spiritual victory).

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toolite · #14 6th November 2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Houseperish

I became born-again Christian about 5 years ago, right before i went to college. By the time I finished college I had been through some serious stuff (enough to make my hair fall out and stop growing). My mother got hurt and I was at school 2000 miles away. There were hate groups on campus drawing swastikas in the snow and bathrooms, etc.

Still, I could handle it if I didn't feel like I was alone in my walk. No one wants to be Christian, no one even acts like one. The world is getting increasingly wickeder and now I know some things that make me feel like there is no hope (some of you know exactly what I mean).

I know there are Christians out there, but they aren't close to one another. I have thought about suicide, but I can't do it... its like I'm spiritually held back (no joke). But, its too difficult to live like this: feeling like you have to take on a whole supernatural army by yourself.

I am being very vague; sorry. But I don't know what to do anymore. My mom wont talk to me because it exhausts her. I don't have any friends I can talk to about this. Just me and God, and I feel like i'm too impatient at times to accept things on God's time. I don't think I fully trust him to be honest: i had been built up and crashed down before. Every time I thing I do something right it turns out being catastrophe. It just really sucks living like this I was wondering if anyone could relate and shed some insight. Ive become quite self-destructive (drugs, alcohol, etc...) because I dont really have any hope, and I dont feel like God will necessarily do anything drastic to help me (not that he cant but he wont).

sorry if i offend anyone

Be at Peace. sometimes you are being fed spiritually but, you do not understand. Change is coming in people and christians etc.. worry not.

Seek God more. Ask him to help you see clearly... the enemy is trying to overwhelm but, God has the power and authority. That's why your down but, not counted out. Maybe you are being taught to be on God's strength when your strength is low. And you are stronger than you know. Cry not. Read your bible.. Praise God More... Take Time For Yourself do something fun... Relax Your Mind and Be At Peace. Your Father Who IS God Knows But, Don't Listen To What The enemy is Saying To You. The enemy is trying to wear you down because he knows who you are in the Lord. Pray & Sing To God! Rejoice even if you do not know when things will be alright so God can Fix It. Let Your Father Know You Are Turning It Over To Him Because You Are Fighting A Battle That's Not Yours. Let Your Father & Angels Fight On Your Behalf. And Rest To Know Your Father IS Going To Do. We Need Trials & Tribulations although Painful Because They Show US how Strong We Are. Stay Blessed! You can fall but, Most Importantly Get Back Up.

All The Glory Belongs To God!

mattevt · #15 10th November 2009, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by heymikey80

"Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners." Mk 2:17

I'm so thankful I found this forum. And I'm so thankful I viewed your post when I did. I grew up in a Christian household, but I fell away from Christ when I went to college. I mean, I found myself on the edge of complete personal destruction.

I have finally felt God calling me back to him, but I know I have a lot of work to do. I still feel really lost at times. I know a lack of self-control is at the center of my problems and I feel like I'm always asking for forgiveness. But it's wonderful to know that God does forgive.

I've found that it's most important to surround oneself with other Christians. I joined a church and started going to a young adults group Tuesday nights. I'm not perfect, and I know I'll never be perfect while on this earth, but I find comfort in the fact that God never let me fall over the edge. He wants to save even me.

Thank you heymikey for your post, and thank you houseperish for starting this topic. You are not alone.

freeport · #16 10th November 2009, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by Houseperish

so since im such a raging drug addict, care to supply any info on how to deal with thaT? or are you just going to tell me whats wrong with me, like I hAvent already thought about that, tried to work and change it, and hAVE TROUBLE WITH IT EVERY DAY?

I'm glad you are a strong Christian unlike me. I guess my place is in Hell unless I get my sh*t together right?

As "HeyMikey" said, get into drug treatment. I will add:"Now".

You know the way out of this hell.

Your choice.

My comments were just about your attitude, "No one is a Christian". That is wrong. Stop judging others and judge yourself. You are out of control. Find the strength to get into drug treatment.

Blaming others won't get you into drug treatment.

It is just circular reasoning that keeps you addicted and keeps you from facing your problems.

heron · #17 10th November 2009, 08:32 AM

I rarely tell people that their solution to a problem is to go to church, but here I go.

We creating our perception of life by the environment we place ourselves in. Finding a good group of believers can put you around people who understand prayer, who hope because they have found God responds to their prayers.

It is not just about finding happy people, or peppy music. But finding those with a conviction that there are things to do in life. Things worth fighting for.

People who start talking negatively can draw each other into a negative belief system. Sometimes it just starts with false humility ("I'm so bad at this") , or irritation over the same injustices ("that pop quiz was so unfair"), but standards are also set for what is acceptable ("Christians are bigots") and you find yourself shifting how you respond, according to what will keep you in a safe zone.

Extend the situation a little further in time. Depression may be a struggle now... will it become a fight for survival? Will you even have the gumption to want to fight.

Life can be different. The way life is now has been rationalized in your mind, and your brain has found you a place where you are. But this zone is not all there is.

It is a lot to handle, having family far away, changed from how you knew them, and suffering. They were a big part of your past life. In a sense, your past has changed.

Then you know your future is unclear when you graduate. And friends now come and go. So you are hovering in this very unstable realm of a few years, expected to be self-motivated in every area of your life.

Find a few places and people that bring you joy. At least relief.

The college public mostly campus unfortunately are filled with liberal antigod professors and so the students turn into this.

The same percentage of Christians work on college campuses as any other sector of society. Professors have very little time to promote their personal beliefs, and can also get into lawsuits for it.

Yes, there are a few who do. But a couple hours with professors does not compare with the dozens of hours students spend with other students. The dorms are not easy places to live. Tiny rooms, people everywhere, noise from all directions, unfair overstepping of boundaries. And much more.