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is there? After all they done Gaza is still under siege, yesterday a kid died because of the siege he couldn't get any medical help.
Perhaps you can explain to me why it is a vice for a Gazan child to die for lack of medical help, but a virtue for that same child to strap a bomb around his waist and stroll into a night club.

I don't want any peace with people who think my brothers are animals and build walls around there homes and let them die of hunger and sickness.
Maybe if your 'brothers' would make peace with Israel, stop killing innocents, those walls would come down. In fact, they would not have been erected in the first place.
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Why has this thread detriorated into a zionist debate?
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Originally Posted by lordbt View Post
Perhaps you can explain to me why it is a vice for a Gazan child to die for lack of medical help, but a virtue for that same child to strap a bomb around his waist and stroll into a night club.
I'm going to call you on this like I've called others on it. How often does this event you've described above happen lordbt?
Originally Posted by lordbt

Maybe if your 'brothers' would make peace with Israel, stop killing innocents, those walls would come down. In fact, they would not have been erected in the first place.
And this one too.
Between Hamas and Israel, which side has broken the most ceasefires? Killed the most civilians?
Or further yet. Why is it that in spite of years of non retaliation from the Arab residents of the West Bank, walls keep going up, land continues to be seized and settlements continue to grow?
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I'm going to call you on this like I've called others on it. How often does this event you've described above happen lordbt?
Are you saying it hasnt happened? Are you saying that young Palestinian men havent strapped bombs to their bodies and walked into nightclubs, cafes, busy streets, and busses? If it happens less today than it used to it is because they built walls to keep these types of people out.
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Perhaps you can explain to me why it is a vice for a Gazan child to die for lack of medical help, but a virtue for that same child to strap a bomb around his waist and stroll into a night club.
maybe you should move to Gaza as soon as you get a child and see how your child will grow and see how he will feel about the Jews.

Maybe if your 'brothers' would make peace with Israel, stop killing innocents, those walls would come down. In fact, they would not have been erected in the first place.
this must be a joke, the Zionists should feel home in USA with you, you seem you love them so much.

the Zionists don't want peace and we don't want peace with Nazis
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If you were dictator of your country...

i will build up technology iin militarie.
i will make militaire more big t o protect my country.
make new energy research
i will get m y country out from European union and united nation.

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Originally Posted by lordbt View Post
Are you saying it hasnt happened? Are you saying that young Palestinian men havent strapped bombs to their bodies and walked into nightclubs, cafes, busy streets, and busses? If it happens less today than it used to it is because they built walls to keep these types of people out.
If you want to talk about how many civilians have been murdered by young Palestinian men, we can.
But you were talking about children, specifically those of the age who are dying as a cause of the Israeli blockade, so please either back up or retract your statement.
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If you want to talk about how many civilians have been murdered by young Palestinian men, we can.
But you were talking about children, specifically those of the age who are dying as a cause of the Israeli blockade, so please either back up or retract your statement.
Child suicide bombers in the Israeli?Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"According to the Coalition to Stop the Use of Child Soldiers "2004 Global Report on the Use of Child Soldiers", there were at least nine documented suicide attacks involving Palestinian minors between October 2000 and March 2004"

And here:

Suicide Bombers by age, education, marital status. Female suicide bombers

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If I were dictator, I'd:

1.....

Radically overhaul the social welfare system which is bleeding my country dry. None of this garbage of promiscous lazy teenagers popping out baby after baby to live on welfare. And none of this nonsense of people being on unemployment benefit for years and years.

2.....

Outlaw certain cults and sects.

3......

Compulsory national service for all young people for 2 years.

4.....

I would build detention camps and forcibly remove people off the streets such as the homeless and derelict, prostitutes, drug addicts etc. My detention camps would rehabilitate these people for as long as they need, provide them with skills and training for employment and once they have a job lined up, only then release them.

5.....

Radically overhaul jails. There would be no contraband, bullying and violence, kickbacks, prison riots, addicts etc in my jails. Because when you go to my jail, each prisoner is in his/her cell never has contact with any other prisoner until release. No prisoners would ever come into contact with each other.
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1. Institute a 35% Flat tax on all income earned above a 25K a year per adult and 10K a year per child.

2. Provide massive tax breaks to worker owned bussinesses... give >50%worker owned businesses interest free loans and other advantages.

3. Tax capital gains and earnings at the same rate, make them the same for tax purposes.

4. Free education for all citizens. If you have the aptitude to get into a program, the government will pick up the cost.

5. Free Health care for all citizens, nationalized health care system modeled on the Canadian system except that we'd spend 30-50% more than Canadians on Health care.

6. Create a separate system of Federal banks which would focus on supporting small and medium sized businesses directly without any need for middle men.

7. Institute a new rule stating that politicians and political organizations are not allowed to accept more than $50 per person per year and that corporations may not donate to political organizations or any kind, only the individuals that work at the corporation up to $50 per politician or political organization per year.

8. Eliminate the Department of Homeland security.

9. Send half of State powers to the county and city level and the other half to the Federal government. Eliminate State government.

10. Reduce the number of Senators to one per State. Reduce the number of Representatives to 100 with each representing 1% of the population of the United States. Set term limit of 2 terms for Senators and 5 terms for Representatives.

11. Setup a new tax on non-renewable energy that started at 10% and automatically increased by 2% every year after that... the money going toward advancing the use and technology of alternative energies.

12. Suspend all support for Israel until they agree to return to the borders established by UN resolution 181.

13. Normalize relations with Cuba.

14. Legalize all drugs, end the war or drugs. Focus on education and rehabilitation.

15. Put laws in place that insure the humane treatment of animals in corperate farming.

16. Provide incentives to help small and mid sized farms that produced food locally.

17. Secure our borders, establish a guest worker program that allows any worker without a criminal record to enter the US and compete with citizens. They will pay all the same taxes citizens pay as well as an additional 5% tax that will be used to provide them free transport to thier country of origin in they are unable to find work in the US for more than 90 days.

18. Commit to 20 years in Afganistan and rebuilding the country from the ground up. We will not leave until a stable system of self rule is in place that does not tolerate religious extremism. If that means parking 50% of our armed forces in Afganistan for the next 20 years that's what we should do. Freeze military spending at current levels without adjusting for inflation.

Take steps to insure that the United States could never again be controlled by a dictator.
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