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18th September 2009, 03:40 PM
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Reps: 9,824,571,865,200,960 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by formy  Anyway I don't care if Israel has a nuclear power that could destroy the earth 10000 times after all nothing happen without Allah's will and if they used it that mean they are nuking themselves.
the Muslims were outnumbered many times some times were outnumbered 10 times, but Allah sent his angels to support them.
No nuclear power in the world can match the power of Allah's angels.
Not to be facetious, but where were Allah's angels when Israel was created? I'm not a religious man, but if I were, my take would be that if Allah really didn't want Israel to exist, he could wipe it out himself, and it is not for us to decide what he does and does not want, and kill people in order to get it Originally Posted by formy Palestinians would never accept your colony in there lands not in a thousand years.
If they insist in having a Jewish state I see a lot of space in the US, you already have 50 what one more state would affect you? Besides I’m sure the Americans are more then happy to welcome “God’s chosen people”.
Would you have a problem with Jerusalem being a jointly-administered zone, where Muslims, Jews, Christians and any other faiths could go about their own business and worship, free from any religious laws, or is it a religious matter for you that Jerusalem must be under Muslim control, as the Jewish people insist it must be under theirs?
What if Israel was a secular state (as far as I am aware, it is) where anyone within its borders, be they Israeli or Arab, could vote for a secular government?  |
20th September 2009, 01:07 PM
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Reps: 18,762,294,747,481,268 (power: 18,762,294,747,485) | | Originally Posted by peadar1987 Not to be facetious, but where were Allah's angels when Israel was created? I'm not a religious man, but if I were, my take would be that if Allah really didn't want Israel to exist, he could wipe it out himself, and it is not for us to decide what he does and does not want, and kill people in order to get it Muslims like old believing nations(Israelites for example) they are not immune from curroption, so when ever they become curropted Allah punish them, just like how Spain fall, they started all staying all night drinking Alcohol and watching women dancing and forgetting about prayers so Allah punish them by sending the Spanish army on them.
same thing to Crusaders and the mongolian invaders, many scholars who lived in that time said that because Muslims became curropt Allah punished them with these 2 invaders.
this verse explain it very well:
surely Allah does not change the condition of a people until they change their own condition; But when (once) Allah willeth a people's punishment, there can be no turning it back, nor will they find, besides Him, any to protect.13:11
if you notice Allah will never change our condition until we change ours, so if we became corrupt Allah will make us from powerful victorious nation to a weak one, and vise versa.
Would you have a problem with Jerusalem being a jointly-administered zone, where Muslims, Jews, Christians and any other faiths could go about their own business and worship, free from any religious laws, or is it a religious matter for you that Jerusalem must be under Muslim control, as the Jewish people insist it must be under theirs?
Yes I would, Jews and Christians can worship under Islamic rule. What if Israel was a secular state (as far as I am aware, it is) where anyone within its borders, be they Israeli or Arab, could vote for a secular government? Israel is a terrorist organization in my list just like Taliban/Iran/Al-Qaeda so I wouldn't care if they'd even let Arabs to run for the elections.
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20th September 2009, 02:07 PM
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-Have stronger diplomatic ties with Russia and China. Makes sense not to be hostile to two of the most powerful nations on Earth.
-Abolish any attempts at political parties by people and have those people thrown in jail. Sorry guys, a dictator is a dictator.
-Try and unite every Protestant in the UK under one common banner. None of this 'chuch of England' stuff. A general Protestant Church for every Protestant.
-Have strong ties to the Vatican, Israel and Syria to ensure the safe passage of British citizens in these holy lands.
-Put a union flag on every building to show how patriotic we are.
-Force everyone to have a good knowledge of English.
-Ensure the freedom of religion by having a government made up of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus. Anyone can convert to any religion they want without any harassment by the local community.
-Homosexuals, women and ethnic minorities have all the rights everyone else has.
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20th September 2009, 06:20 PM
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Reps: 18,762,294,747,481,268 (power: 18,762,294,747,485) | | Originally Posted by Supreme I would:
-Have stronger diplomatic ties with Russia and China. Makes sense not to be hostile to two of the most powerful nations on Earth.
-Abolish any attempts at political parties by people and have those people thrown in jail. Sorry guys, a dictator is a dictator.
-Try and unite every Protestant in the UK under one common banner. None of this 'chuch of England' stuff. A general Protestant Church for every Protestant.
-Have strong ties to the Vatican, Israel and Syria to ensure the safe passage of British citizens in these holy lands.
-Put a union flag on every building to show how patriotic we are.
-Force everyone to have a good knowledge of English.
-Ensure the freedom of religion by having a government made up of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus. Anyone can convert to any religion they want without any harassment by the local community.
-Homosexuals, women and ethnic minorities have all the rights everyone else has.
how you gonna make strong ries with Israel and Syria at the same time, Syria is an Iranian puppet that arm hisbuallah.
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20th September 2009, 06:58 PM
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Reps: 487,428,604,501,145,536 (power: 487,428,604,501,153) | | Originally Posted by formy how you gonna make strong ries with Israel and Syria at the same time, Syria is an Iranian puppet that arm hisbuallah.
Um, I don't think Syria will care much seeing as they'll be making allies with the UK, one of the wealthiest and most powerful nations on Earth.
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21st September 2009, 12:00 AM
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Reps: 18,762,294,747,481,268 (power: 18,762,294,747,485) | | Originally Posted by Supreme Um, I don't think Syria will care much seeing as they'll be making allies with the UK, one of the wealthiest and most powerful nations on Earth.
Syria is controlled by Alawis and they believe that Ali was raised to the moon and he will come back, they have many secret beliefs they don't even share it with there own people until you reach a very old age.
I think betraying Iran means no Ali for them ;p
they are 5% or something but all of the high ranked offecers and the leader are Alawis.
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Reps: 19,391,142,157,809,696 (power: 19,391,142,157,824) | | Originally Posted by formy
Syria is controlled by Alawis and they believe that Ali was raised to the moon and he will come back, they have many secret beliefs they don't even share it with there own people until you reach a very old age.
I think betraying Iran means no Ali for them ;p
they are 5% or something but all of the high ranked offecers and the leader are Alawis.
Interesting, I hadn't heard of that cult before.
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21st September 2009, 02:29 PM
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Reps: 128,547,453,959,722,656 (power: 128,547,453,959,734) | | Originally Posted by TheNewWorldMan Who is Ali?
Oh dear 
And this coming from one of the most opinionated people on these boards when it comes to Islam? |
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Reps: 19,391,142,157,809,696 (power: 19,391,142,157,824) | | Originally Posted by Douger Oh dear
And this coming from one of the most opinionated people on these boards when it comes to Islam?
I could have Wikied the answer easily enough, but I wanted to hear it straight from a practicing Muslim. | | |
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